Re: [shoes] A tangled web (mess) of dependencies Encoding vs. SQLite3 vs. ActiveRecord
- Andrew S. Townley
- 2011-11-18 @ 19:09
On 18 Nov 2011, at 6:46 PM, Steve Klabnik wrote:
> Hey Andrew!
>> This is all just fine--except activerecord 3.1.1 depends on SQLite3
3.1.1 and that's newer than what comes with Shoes from the download:
> Ahh, That's a bummer.
Actually, it seems to be worse than that. For some reason, even when I
took the version out of the installed gem call in the connection adapter,
it still choked on the gem statement in the active_record dependency
1 require 'active_record/connection_adapters/sqlite_adapter'
3 #gem 'sqlite3', '~> 1.3.0'
4 require 'sqlite3'
I had to completely remove line 3 in order to get it loaded. Who knows
what else will break, but I don't think I'm pushing the adapter very hard
with what I need to do. *fingers crossed*
>> Unfortunately, I need this combination to work. Is there any way -
apart from building a new version of policeman with updated SQLite that
might get me going with a minimum of fuss?
> Not right now, though as Kaiden points out, it's not too hard to just
> build your own Shoes with the gems you want.
...except for this: https://github.com/shoes/shoes/issues/159 ;)
I can't disturb my Ruby environment on this machine because I need it for
other projects using 1.8.7p249, and I'm not ready to dive in to the
macports vs. homebrew stuff since I've spent a large part of this week
just trying to get something simple going this way.
>> Also, whatever it is needs to be something that I can eventually roll
up into a big ball and deliver to someone running Windows--again, with the
minimum of fuss.
> This is part of the problem. C extension gems need to be compiled on a
> per-architecture basis, so unless people have dev tools installed,
> there's no way to do this simply.
No, I understand that part. I meant setting up an environment (Windows)
and then bundling everything in there before distribution. We have the
ability to do this, but I was hoping not to have to hack and slash default
gems just to get going.
>> Is this possible, or should I just give up and write a Rails app? BTW,
I'm sincerely hoping the answer to this is a resounding "no"...
> It's certainly possible, but at the current stage, requires compiling
> a special pair of Shoes.
> We've been talking about creating a buildbot webservice where you
> could just request a pair of Shoes and get a copy with everything
> installed. That's not happening soon, though.
That would be quite cool--kinda like the old build servers sourceforge
used to provide. Understand that it isn't a runner for the near term.
I've managed to get a bit further than I was by commenting out the gem
call in the sqlite3 connector in the active record 3.1.1 source, but I'm
going to end up with a very fragile environment before I know it...
Thanks for the input. Will keep plugging away. This is actually less
scary than Rails after building a totally different web framework for the
last 6 years... Let's just say my mental models aren't quite in line with
the Rails way of doing things. Was really hoping this was a quicker
alternative for the piddly little thing I'm trying to do. Less and less
certain as the days go by... ;)
Andrew S. Townley <firstname.lastname@example.org>