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variety of Android phones

From:
Michael Richardson
Date:
2011-05-31 @ 01:56
In the next month or so (date to be determined), I will be determining
3G (UMTS, Wind, Mobilicity, Belus) and LTE (?) coverage towards 6 rural
villages.  You can contact me offlist if you want to know details of
why.

Basically, I want to be the "can you hear me?" guy.

I will be travelling (some parts by foot).  I am looking for an App for
Android (or iPhone if I must) that can measure:
    a) geo-location (GPS and inertial guess)
    b) cellular signal strengh
    c) if data is available, strength, and ideally first hop ping
       time, and also ping time to a host I declare.
    d) export it all as KML file.

I don't need the app to *DRAW* my route.  I'd be most happy if it
continued to run as a service even when the phone is locked.

Likely I can hack something up myself, and I might do this, but as time
is of the essence, I'd rather hack something out there with source.

What I *do* need, and the device library could help me here, is to have
devices on multiple networks, because I need to know which company to
approach for a bulk contract.  I suspect that none of them can service
the entire 6 cooridors I care about, so significant money might be
involved to fill in gaps with wimax.

As such I'm interested in borrowing your network enabled phone for a
half a day  (possibly on multiple days, but not for multiple days).  
Or you could come with :-) 

I have WIND on a G1 and can get it on G2 and Alcatel phones.
I have another G1 that I'll enable for a month on Rogers, but I'd rather
use someone else's faster phone.

So I'm looking for Belus, and mobilicity.  I assume all the other
"brands" (Koolu, Virgin, Solo) are rebrands/sublease of existing
networks.  (Tell me if I've missed something).

BTW: Does anyone have a wimax capable device that is portable?

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Re: [ottawaandroid] variety of Android phones

From:
Michael Richardson
Date:
2011-05-31 @ 02:26
>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> writes:
    Michael> Likely I can hack something up myself, and I might do this,
    Michael> but as time is of the essence, I'd rather hack something
    Michael> out there with source.

I just discovered that the tricorder app is completely open source.
It has all the info I need, I just need to log it to a file.

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]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON    |net architect[
] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
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Re: [ottawaandroid] variety of Android phones

From:
Martin Larochelle
Date:
2011-05-31 @ 03:56
Do you know of the coverage mapper app?

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.madcowsolutions.CoverageMapper&feature=search_result

Other than c) it has most of what you describe. It uses google maps to
display the coverage data, it does not draw the route per say, just dots,
but the result still looks
alright: coveragemapper.com/map.php?mccmnc=302490. You could probably
display your different measurements as layers.

In addition to the ping time, if the app could get the upload and download
speeds as speed test

(https://market.android.com/details?id=org.zwanoo.android.speedtest&feature=search_result)
it would be great. I find that the speed varies more than the ping time
based on the signal strength.

FYI: The dev that implemented coverage mapper did not find a way to get the
signal strength updates when the screen is off.  Would suck to walk for 2
days and find out after...

-- 

*Martin Larochelle*, eng.

Solutions Architect



On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>wrote:

>
> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> writes:
>    Michael> Likely I can hack something up myself, and I might do this,
>    Michael> but as time is of the essence, I'd rather hack something
>    Michael> out there with source.
>
> I just discovered that the tricorder app is completely open source.
> It has all the info I need, I just need to log it to a file.
>
> --
> ]       He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life!           |
>  firewalls  [
> ]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON    |net
> architect[
> ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device
> driver[
>   Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE>
>                       then sign the petition.
>
>
>

Re: [ottawaandroid] variety of Android phones

From:
Michael Richardson
Date:
2011-05-31 @ 12:38
>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Larochelle <martin@macadamian.com> writes:
    Martin> Do you know of the coverage mapper app?
    Martin> 
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.madcowsolutions.CoverageMapper&feature=search_result

I did not know about it.

    Martin> In addition to the ping time, if the app could get the
    Martin> upload and download speeds as speed test
    Martin> 
(https://market.android.com/details?id=org.zwanoo.android.speedtest&feature=search_result)
    Martin> it would be great. I find that the speed varies more than
    Martin> the ping time based on the signal strength.

Yes, that's because most networks have optimitized for throughput
instead of low latency.  

    Martin> FYI: The dev that implemented coverage mapper did not find a
    Martin> way to get the signal strength updates when the screen is
    Martin> off.  Would suck to walk for 2 days and find out after...

Good to know.    So we need to lock the screen on, and bring extra
batteries :-)

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]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON    |net architect[
] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
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Re: [ottawaandroid] variety of Android phones

From:
Don Kelly
Date:
2011-05-31 @ 02:24
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 21:56, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>
> I will be travelling (some parts by foot).  I am looking for an App for
> Android (or iPhone if I must) that can measure:
>    a) geo-location (GPS and inertial guess)
>    b) cellular signal strengh
>    c) if data is available, strength, and ideally first hop ping
>       time, and also ping time to a host I declare.
>    d) export it all as KML file.
>

There's a hackfest this weekend (Sat(. I'd be certainly happy to work
on this with you.

Unfortunately, don't have a Belus android phone, but I've sent out a
ping to someone who might.

Don/

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Re: [ottawaandroid] variety of Android phones

From:
Michael Richardson
Date:
2011-05-31 @ 16:09
>>>>> "Don" == Don Kelly <karfai@gmail.com> writes:
    Don> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 21:56, Michael Richardson
    Don> <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote:
    >> I will be travelling (some parts by foot).  I am looking for an
    >> App for Android (or iPhone if I must) that can measure:    a)
    >> geo-location (GPS and inertial guess)    b) cellular signal
    >> strengh    c) if data is available, strength, and ideally first
    >> hop ping       time, and also ping time to a host I declare.
    >>    d) export it all as KML file.
    >> 

    Don> There's a hackfest this weekend (Sat(. I'd be certainly happy
    Don> to work on this with you.

Hacking on tricorder to record to CSV file would be generally useful to
the world.  (There is even a ticket open on it).

The site: 
    http://www.coveragemapper.com/
The app:
   
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.madcowsolutions.CoverageMapper&feature=search_result

seems to do exactly what I want.  It would be nice if it could, like
Tricorder, tell me the signal strength of all the GSM networks it can
hear.  I'm not sure if it does yet.

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]       He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life!           |  firewalls  [
]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON    |net architect[
] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
   Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE>
	               then sign the petition.