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Confusing navigation - what is a "Show"?

Confusing navigation - what is a "Show"?

From:
Chad Woolley
Date:
2009-11-12 @ 07:37
When I go to this link for Round 2 under "Show":

http://fretwar.com/static/data/show/2009/11/12/0511AM/#tablink

and click "Listen to it" - I get in an endless loop with "No Media for
this show".

This is confusing - it seems like this might be where the round 2
media is (but it is really under "Latest").

What is Show?  Why does it talk about the round but have a link to no media?

Re: Confusing navigation - what is a "Show"?

From:
Zed A. Shaw
Date:
2009-11-12 @ 08:10
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:37:45AM -0700, Chad Woolley wrote:
> When I go to this link for Round 2 under "Show":
> 
> http://fretwar.com/static/data/show/2009/11/12/0511AM/#tablink
> 
> and click "Listen to it" - I get in an endless loop with "No Media for
> this show".
> 
> This is confusing - it seems like this might be where the round 2
> media is (but it is really under "Latest").
> 
> What is Show?  Why does it talk about the round but have a link to no media?

It's a blog post for the show.  That particular blog post has no media.

So, when you looked at the page did you see that it was called "Show
4:..."? 

Also, did you realize that you got to it by clicking on show?

Do you think that your idea that it's "part of the round" is because the
three "big buttons" on the top are similar to Round?

Is it because the title isn't in some place where your eyes could see it?

What if instead of "Listen To Media" it said "No Media" and you couldn't
click on it?

Hell, maybe every show post should have media.

Oh, also, if you're feeling really helpful we have a bug tracker at:

http://support.fretwar.com/

That lets you submit bugs but not see them (prevents spam).  Feel frett
to just punch them in there and we'll tee them up to finish.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw
http://zedshaw.com/

Re: Confusing navigation - what is a "Show"?

From:
Chad Woolley
Date:
2009-11-12 @ 08:28
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw@zedshaw.com> wrote:
>
> It's a blog post for the show.  That particular blog post has no media.
>
> So, when you looked at the page did you see that it was called "Show
> 4:..."?

Yes, it specifically says "Show 4: Round 2..."

>
> Also, did you realize that you got to it by clicking on show?

Yes, but since I didn't know what a "Show" is (a blog post), it is a
reasonable assumption that clicking "Listen to it" under big words
"Round 2" would take me to some media about Round 2, or give me some
clues to find the media.  Incorrect, but reasonable...

>
> Do you think that your idea that it's "part of the round" is because the
> three "big buttons" on the top are similar to Round?

Yes, and the words "Round 2" in the title.

> Is it because the title isn't in some place where your eyes could see it?

No, I guess it's because "Latest" and "Show" are two non-standard
terms, and its not too clear that the media for the round is only
under "Latest", and not "Show".

>
> What if instead of "Listen To Media" it said "No Media" and you couldn't
> click on it?

Yeah, or even better provide a link to the media for the Round being
discussed in the "Show" (post).

>
> Hell, maybe every show post should have media.
>
> Oh, also, if you're feeling really helpful we have a bug tracker at:
>
> http://support.fretwar.com/
>
> That lets you submit bugs but not see them (prevents spam).  Feel frett
> to just punch them in there and we'll tee them up to finish.

OK.  I'll use that in the future.  You can open ones for this and my
previous email if you want.  As mentioned in my previous mail, there's
no mention of the tracker on the "About" page.

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Date:
2009-11-13 @ 04:46
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Re: Confusing navigation - what is a "Show"?

From:
Zed A. Shaw
Date:
2009-11-12 @ 08:49
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:28:57AM -0700, Chad Woolley wrote:
> > So, when you looked at the page did you see that it was called "Show
> > 4:..."?
> 
> Yes, it specifically says "Show 4: Round 2..."

Wait, that's all you read?  Just that?  Not the rest of the title?

> Yes, but since I didn't know what a "Show" is (a blog post), it is a
> reasonable assumption that clicking "Listen to it" under big words
> "Round 2" would take me to some media about Round 2, or give me some
> clues to find the media.  Incorrect, but reasonable...

So, if I get you right, you think a reasonable person would read:

Show 4:  Round 2 Due SUNDAY At Midnight

and only see:

Show 4: Round 2

and still think this *is* round 2, not a show about round 2.

Really Chad?
 
> OK.  I'll use that in the future.  You can open ones for this and my
> previous email if you want.  As mentioned in my previous mail, there's
> no mention of the tracker on the "About" page.

Yep, we don't want everyone and his brother filling it for now.  I mean,
it's just me and one other dude doing this in our spare times on our own
dime.

We probably won't be changing the above titles or anything to help those
people with a less than 3rd grade reading ability.  As much as I'd like
to get everyone to use it, if they can't read the title past 4 words,
then I don't have the time or money to have them as a user.

Thanks for the bug reports.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw
http://zedshaw.com/