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I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Robert Picard
Date:
2013-05-23 @ 05:36
I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices 
for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This 
whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new 
Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
the tutorial in the documentation.

I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/

If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this, 
please let me know!

Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in 
real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Robert Picard
http://robert.io

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Nathan M
Date:
2013-05-23 @ 06:12
Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki and
then push it on the flask repo ?
Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :

> **
> I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices
> for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This
> whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new
> Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
> the tutorial in the documentation.
>
> I wrote a little about what I'm doing here:
> http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/
>
> If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this,
> please let me know!
>
> Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in
> real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
> with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Thanks,
> **
> Robert Picard
> http://robert.io
>

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Robert Picard
Date:
2013-05-23 @ 06:42
Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I 
definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just 
wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.

Robert Picard



---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 Nathan 
M<feydaykyn@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki and
then push it on the flask repo ?
 Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
 I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices 
for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This 
whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new 
Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
the tutorial in the documentation.
 
I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/

If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this, 
please let me know!
 
Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in 
real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Robert Picard
 http://robert.io




 

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
dorian i
Date:
2013-05-23 @ 10:25
   - Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain
   -
   
http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

> **
> Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I
> definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just
> wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.
>
> Robert Picard
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 *Nathan 
M<feydaykyn@gmail.com>*wrote ----
>
> Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki and
> then push it on the flask repo ?
> Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
>
> **
> I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices
> for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This
> whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new
> Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
> the tutorial in the documentation.
>
> I wrote a little about what I'm doing here:
> http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/
>
> If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this,
> please let me know!
>
> Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in
> real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
> with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Thanks,
> **
> Robert Picard
> http://robert.io
>
>
>

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Robert Picard
Date:
2013-05-23 @ 11:33
That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an example 
SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some sort of 
Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I 
shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" 
and keep the focus there.

Does anyone have a thought on that note?

Robert Picard



---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain

http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/
 


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
 Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I 
definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just 
wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.
 
Robert Picard



---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 Nathan 
M<feydaykyn@gmail.com> wrote ---- 
 
 
Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki and
then push it on the flask repo ?
 Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
 I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices 
for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This 
whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new 
Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
the tutorial in the documentation.
 
I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/

If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this, 
please let me know!
 
Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in 
real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Robert Picard
 http://robert.io




 



 



 

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Nico Gevers
Date:
2013-05-24 @ 05:56
It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building a SaaS
app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some people
might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some corporate
behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that includes SaaS
specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS apps, it might
be more appealing.


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

> **
> That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an example
> SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some sort of
> Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I
> shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" and
> keep the focus there.
>
> Does anyone have a thought on that note?
>
> Robert Picard
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 *dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com>*wrote ----
>
>
>    - Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain
>    -
>    
http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
>
> **
> Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I
> definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just
> wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.
>
> Robert Picard
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 *Nathan M<feydaykyn@gmail.co 
m<feydaykyn@gmail.com>
> >* wrote ----
>
> Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki and
> then push it on the flask repo ?
> Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
>
> **
> I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices
> for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This
> whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new
> Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
> the tutorial in the documentation.
>
> I wrote a little about what I'm doing here:
> http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/
>
> If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this,
> please let me know!
>
> Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in
> real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
> with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Thanks,
> **
> Robert Picard
> http://robert.io
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Dave Shawley
Date:
2013-05-24 @ 11:42
I agree with Nico on this one.  Using an application as a case study 
throughout the book is nice.  It provides a consistent backdrop for what 
you are trying to communicate.  I wouldn't put it in the title though 
unless you are planning on writing a very targeted book.  "Real World 
Flask" or something like that might be a better title.  Don't concentrate 
a lot on the application that you are building, just use it as the 
backdrop for exposing and conquering the really interesting issues.

Personally, I would love to see a concentration on how Flask can be used 
as the application layer working together with other best in breed 
libraries and technologies.  I'm thinking of stuff like Kenneth Reitz's 
requests for server-to-server communications, celery for task management, 
etc.  Then touch on some other seldom hit topics like diagnostic log 
management (log files, loggly, sentry, etc.) or how to manage upgrades of 
the application with introducing downtime.  You know, real world scenarios
that a service provider has to deal with.

I guess that makes it less about Flask and more about how to build world 
class applications with Python that happen to use Flask as one of the many
parts.  That is part of my wish list =)

- dave

--
There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous
enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good 
enough. -- Eric S. Raymond.

On May 24, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Nico Gevers <nico@squire-labs.com> wrote:

> It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building a SaaS
app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some people 
might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some corporate 
behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that includes 
SaaS specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS apps, it 
might be more appealing.
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
> That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an example
SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some sort of 
Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I 
shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" 
and keep the focus there.
> 
> Does anyone have a thought on that note?
> 
> Robert Picard
> 
> 
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 dorian i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com>
wrote ---- 
> 
> Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain
> 
http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
> Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I 
definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just 
wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.
> 
> Robert Picard
> 
> 
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 Nathan M<feydaykyn@gmail.co m> 
wrote ---- 
> 
> Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki 
and then push it on the flask repo ?
> 
> Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
> I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices
for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This 
whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new 
Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
the tutorial in the documentation.
> 
> I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/
> 
> If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this, 
please let me know!
> 
> Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in 
real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert Picard
> http://robert.io
> 
> 
> 
> 


Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Robert Picard
Date:
2013-05-24 @ 17:18
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. The more I think about it, the more I 
agree with you and Nico. I think I'll cover a more general theme while 
using the SaaS example app as a lens through which to teach it. I don't 
want to put myself in an arbitrary box while writing, and I certainly 
don't want to alienate people who might not be working on a SaaS app, but 
could still benefit from the book.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

Robert Picard

http://robert.io

---- On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:46 -0500 Dave 
Shawley<daveshawley@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


I agree with Nico on this one.  Using an application as a case study 
throughout the book is nice.  It provides a consistent backdrop for what 
you are trying to communicate.  I wouldn't put it in the title though 
unless you are planning on writing a very targeted book.  "Real World 
Flask" or something like that might be a better title.  Don't concentrate 
a lot on the application that you are building, just use it as the 
backdrop for exposing and conquering the really interesting issues.


Personally, I would love to see a concentration on how Flask can be used 
as the application layer working together with other best in breed 
libraries and technologies.  I'm thinking of stuff like Kenneth Reitz's 
requests for server-to-server communications, celery for task management, 
etc.  Then touch on some other seldom hit topics like diagnostic log 
management (log files, loggly, sentry, etc.) or how to manage upgrades of 
the application with introducing downtime.  You know, real world scenarios
that a service provider has to deal with.


I guess that makes it less about Flask and more about how to build world 
class applications with Python that happen to use Flask as one of the many
parts.  That is part of my wish list =)


- dave


--
There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous
enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good 
enough. -- Eric S. Raymond.






On May 24, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Nico Gevers <nico@squire-labs.com> wrote:

It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building a SaaS 
app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some people 
might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some corporate 
behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that includes 
SaaS specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS apps, it 
might be more appealing.
 

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
 That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an example 
SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some sort of 
Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I 
shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" 
and keep the focus there.
 
Does anyone have a thought on that note?

Robert Picard



---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com> wrote ---- 
 

Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain

http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/
 



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
 
 Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I 
definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just 
wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.
 
Robert Picard




---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 Nathan M<feydaykyn@gmail.co 
m> wrote ---- 
 
 
Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki and
then push it on the flask repo ?
 Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
 I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices 
for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This 
whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new 
Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
the tutorial in the documentation.
 
I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/

If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this, 
please let me know!
 
Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in 
real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,
 Robert Picard
 http://robert.io/




 



 



  





 

 
 


Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Chris Hancock
Date:
2013-05-26 @ 12:12
Any chance of an extreme discount for an extreme pre-order? :-D


On 24 May 2013 18:18, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

> **
> Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. The more I think about it, the more I
> agree with you and Nico. I think I'll cover a more general theme while
> using the SaaS example app as a lens through which to teach it. I don't
> want to put myself in an arbitrary box while writing, and I certainly don't
> want to alienate people who might not be working on a SaaS app, but could
> still benefit from the book.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions guys!
>
> Robert Picard
> http://robert.io
>
> ---- On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:46 -0500 *Dave Shawley<
> daveshawley@gmail.com>* wrote ----
>
> I agree with Nico on this one.  Using an application as a case study
> throughout the book is nice.  It provides a consistent backdrop for what
> you are trying to communicate.  I wouldn't put it in the title though
> unless you are planning on writing a very targeted book.  "Real World
> Flask" or something like that might be a better title.  Don't concentrate a
> lot on the application that you are building, just use it as the backdrop
> for exposing and conquering the really interesting issues.
>
> Personally, I would love to see a concentration on how Flask can be used
> as the application layer working together with other best in breed
> libraries and technologies.  I'm thinking of stuff like Kenneth Reitz's
> requests for server-to-server communications, celery for task management,
> etc.  Then touch on some other seldom hit topics like diag nostic log
> management (log files, loggly, sentry, etc.) or how to manage upgrades of
> the application with introducing downtime.  You know, real world scenarios
> that a service provider has to deal with.
>
> I guess that makes it less about Flask and more about how to build world
> class applications with Python that happen to use Flask as one of the many
> parts.  That is part of my wish list =)
>
> - dave
>
> --
> There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous
> enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good
> enough. -- Eric S. Raymond.
>
> On May 24, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Nico Gevers <nico@squire-labs.com> wrote:
>
> It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building a SaaS
> app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some people
> might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some corporate
> behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that includes SaaS
> specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS apps, it might
> be more appealing.
>
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
>
> **
> That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an example
> SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some sort of
> Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I
> shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" and
> keep the focus there.
>
> Does anyone have a thought on that note?
>
> Robert Picard
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 *dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com>*wrote ----
>
>
>    - Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain
>    -
>    
http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/
>
> **
>
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
>
> **
> Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I
> definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just
> wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.
>
> Robert Picard
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 *Nathan M< <feydaykyn@gmail.com>
> feydaykyn@gmail.co m>* wrote ----
>
> Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki and
> then push it on the flask repo ?
> Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
>
> **
> I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices
> for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This
> whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new
> Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
> the tutorial in the documentation.
>
> I wrote a little about what I'm doing here:
> http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/
>
> If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this,
> please let me know!
>
> Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in
> real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
> with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Thanks,
> **
>  Robert Picard
> http://robert.io/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Robert Picard
Date:
2013-05-26 @ 16:19
Haha, it's a little too early I think. I'll think about setting up a 
pre-order when I get a little closer to the launch. If you sign-up to the 
mailing list you'll be one of the first to hear about it!

Robert Picard
http://robert.io



---- On Sun, 26 May 2013 07:12:28 -0500 Chris Hancock 
<chs2048@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


Any chance of an extreme discount for an extreme pre-order? :-D


On 24 May 2013 18:18, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
 Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. The more I think about it, the more I 
agree with you and Nico. I think I'll cover a more general theme while 
using the SaaS example app as a lens through which to teach it. I don't 
want to put myself in an arbitrary box while writing, and I certainly 
don't want to alienate people who might not be working on a SaaS app, but 
could still benefit from the book.
 
Thanks for the suggestions guys!

Robert Picard

http://robert.io

---- On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:46 -0500 Dave 
Shawley<daveshawley@gmail.com> wrote ---- 
 

I agree with Nico on this one.  Using an application as a case study 
throughout the book is nice.  It provides a consistent backdrop for what 
you are trying to communicate.  I wouldn't put it in the title though 
unless you are planning on writing a very targeted book.  "Real World 
Flask" or something like that might be a better title.  Don't concentrate 
a lot on the application that you are building, just use it as the 
backdrop for exposing and conquering the really interesting issues.
 


Personally, I would love to see a concentration on how Flask can be used 
as the application layer working together with other best in breed 
libraries and technologies.  I'm thinking of stuff like Kenneth Reitz's 
requests for server-to-server communications, celery for task management, 
etc.  Then touch on some other seldom hit topics like diag nostic log 
management (log files, loggly, sentry, etc.) or how to manage upgrades of 
the application with introducing downtime.  You know, real world scenarios
that a service provider has to deal with.
 

I guess that makes it less about Flask and more about how to build world 
class applications with Python that happen to use Flask as one of the many
parts.  That is part of my wish list =)

 
- dave



--
There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous
enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good 
enough. -- Eric S. Raymond.
 





On May 24, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Nico Gevers <nico@squire-labs.com> wrote:

 
It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building a SaaS 
app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some people 
might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some corporate 
behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that includes 
SaaS specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS apps, it 
might be more appealing.
 


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

 That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an example 
SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some sort of 
Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I 
shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" 
and keep the focus there.
 
Does anyone have a thought on that note?

Robert Picard



---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com> wrote ---- 
 


Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain

http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/
 



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
 
 
 Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I 
definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just 
wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.
 
Robert Picard




---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 Nathan M<feydaykyn@gmail.co 
m> wrote ---- 
 

 
Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki and
then push it on the flask repo ?
 
Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
 
 I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices 
for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This 
whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new 
Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
the tutorial in the documentation.
 
I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/

If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this, 
please let me know!
 
Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in 
real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,

  Robert Picard
 http://robert.io/




 



 



 
 





 

 
 







 

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Harry Percival
Date:
2013-05-30 @ 09:54
Hi Robert,

Nice to meet a fellow book author!  I’m writing a book on TDD web 
development for http://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/  -- still in its early 
days, and based on Django, but you’re very welcome to take a look, for 
inspiration, if you’re planning to include a mention of testing / TDD.  
Also very happy to help out if you want someone to do a tech review of a 
chapter on TDD (although I far from being a world expert!)

Also happy to share any tips and tricks I’ve learned (eg, use asciidoc!) –
my personal email is obeythetestinggoat@gmail.com  

Another thing – have you thought of doing a kickstarter to raise some 
money for the book?  The last person I know that was going to write a book
about web-dev did, and raised way more than I ever got given as an advance
by a “real publisher” -- 
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1369857650/real-python-for-web-development-featuring-web2py

With that said, do also get in touch if you want to be put in touch with a
“real publisher”.  My editor did mention something about flask the other 
day...

HP

-- 
Harry Percival
Developer
harry@pythonanywhere.com

PythonAnywhere - a fully browser-based Python development and hosting environment
<http://www.pythonanywhere.com/>

PythonAnywhere LLP
17a Clerkenwell Road, London EC1M 5RD, UK
VAT No.: GB 893 5643 79
Registered in England and Wales as company number OC378414.
Registered address: 28 Ely Place, 3rd Floor, London EC1N 6TD, UK

From: Robert Picard 
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:19 PM
To: flask@librelist.com 
Subject: Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

Haha, it's a little too early I think. I'll think about setting up a 
pre-order when I get a little closer to the launch. If you sign-up to the 
mailing list you'll be one of the first to hear about it!


Robert Picard
http://robert.io



---- On Sun, 26 May 2013 07:12:28 -0500 Chris Hancock <chs2048@gmail.com> 
wrote ---- 



  Any chance of an extreme discount for an extreme pre-order? :-D



  On 24 May 2013 18:18, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

    Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. The more I think about it, the more
I agree with you and Nico. I think I'll cover a more general theme while 
using the SaaS example app as a lens through which to teach it. I don't 
want to put myself in an arbitrary box while writing, and I certainly 
don't want to alienate people who might not be working on a SaaS app, but 
could still benefit from the book.

    Thanks for the suggestions guys!


    Robert Picard

    http://robert.io


    ---- On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:46 -0500 Dave 
Shawley<daveshawley@gmail.com> wrote ---- 



      I agree with Nico on this one.  Using an application as a case study
throughout the book is nice.  It provides a consistent backdrop for what 
you are trying to communicate.  I wouldn't put it in the title though 
unless you are planning on writing a very targeted book.  "Real World 
Flask" or something like that might be a better title.  Don't concentrate 
a lot on the application that you are building, just use it as the 
backdrop for exposing and conquering the really interesting issues.

      Personally, I would love to see a concentration on how Flask can be 
used as the application layer working together with other best in breed 
libraries and technologies.  I'm thinking of stuff like Kenneth Reitz's 
requests for server-to-server communications, celery for task management, 
etc.  Then touch on some other seldom hit topics like diag nostic log 
management (log files, loggly, sentry, etc.) or how to manage upgrades of 
the application with introducing downtime.  You know, real world scenarios
that a service provider has to deal with.

      I guess that makes it less about Flask and more about how to build 
world class applications with Python that happen to use Flask as one of 
the many parts.  That is part of my wish list =)

      - dave

      --
      There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most 
dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just 
good enough. -- Eric S. Raymond.


      On May 24, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Nico Gevers <nico@squire-labs.com> wrote:

        It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building 
a SaaS app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some 
people might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some 
corporate behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that 
includes SaaS specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS 
apps, it might be more appealing.



        On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

          That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an
example SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some 
sort of Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I
shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" 
and keep the focus there.

          Does anyone have a thought on that note?


          Robert Picard



          ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


              a.. Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain 
              b.. 
http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/




            On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

              Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial 
product. I definitely thought about going the open source route, but that 
just wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.


              Robert Picard



              ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 Nathan 
M<feydaykyn@gmail.co m> wrote ---- 



                Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a
github wiki and then push it on the flask repo ?

                Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :

                  I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking 
for best practices for various development patterns that I thought a book 
was in order. This whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book 
that will help new Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are 
out of the scope of the tutorial in the documentation.

                  I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/

                  If you have anything you think should be covered in a 
book like this, please let me know!

                  Also, I plan on including interviews with developers 
using Flask in real-world applications. If you have a web app in 
production that is built with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.

                  Thanks,

                  Robert Picard
                  http://robert.io/












Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Robert Picard
Date:
2013-05-30 @ 12:16
Thanks, I just sent you an email.

Robert Picard
http://robert.io



---- On Thu, 30 May 2013 04:54:17 -0500 Harry 
Percival<harry@pythonanywhere.com> wrote ---- 


   Hi Robert,
  
 Nice to meet a fellow book author!  I’m writing a book on TDD web 
development for http://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/  -- still in its early 
days, and based on Django, but you’re very welcome to take a look, for 
inspiration, if you’re planning to include a mention of testing / TDD.  
Also very happy to help out if you want someone to do a tech review of a 
chapter on TDD (although I far from being a world expert!)
  
 Also happy to share any tips and tricks I’ve learned (eg, use asciidoc!) 
– my personal email is obeythetestinggoat@gmail.com  
  
 Another thing – have you thought of doing a kickstarter to raise some 
money for the book?  The last person I know that was going to write a book
about web-dev did, and raised way more than I ever got given as an advance
by a “real publisher” -- 
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1369857650/real-python-for-web-development-featuring-web2py
  
 With that said, do also get in touch if you want to be put in touch with 
a “real publisher”.  My editor did mention something about flask the other
day...
  
 HP
  
 -- 
Harry Percival
Developer
harry@pythonanywhere.com

PythonAnywhere - a fully browser-based Python development and hosting environment
<http://www.pythonanywhere.com/>

PythonAnywhere LLP
17a Clerkenwell Road, London EC1M 5RD, UK
VAT No.: GB 893 5643 79
Registered in England and Wales as company number OC378414.
Registered address: 28 Ely Place, 3rd Floor, London EC1N 6TD, UK
    
  From: Robert Picard 
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:19 PM
 To: flask@librelist.com 
 Subject: Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted


  

  Haha, it's a little too early I think. I'll think about setting up a 
pre-order when I get a little closer to the launch. If you sign-up to the 
mailing list you'll be one of the first to hear about it!

 Robert Picard
http://robert.io

  
 
---- On Sun, 26 May 2013 07:12:28 -0500 Chris Hancock 
<chs2048@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


  Any chance of an extreme discount for an extreme pre-order? :-D
 

 On 24 May 2013 18:18, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
   Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. The more I think about it, the more 
I agree with you and Nico. I think I'll cover a more general theme while 
using the SaaS example app as a lens through which to teach it. I don't 
want to put myself in an arbitrary box while writing, and I certainly 
don't want to alienate people who might not be working on a SaaS app, but 
could still benefit from the book.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

 Robert Picard

http://robert.io
 
---- On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:46 -0500 Dave 
Shawley<daveshawley@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


    I agree with Nico on this one.  Using an application as a case study 
throughout the book is nice.  It provides a consistent backdrop for what 
you are trying to communicate.  I wouldn't put it in the title though 
unless you are planning on writing a very targeted book.  "Real World 
Flask" or something like that might be a better title.  Don't concentrate 
a lot on the application that you are building, just use it as the 
backdrop for exposing and conquering the really interesting issues.
  

 Personally, I would love to see a concentration on how Flask can be used 
as the application layer working together with other best in breed 
libraries and technologies.  I'm thinking of stuff like Kenneth Reitz's 
requests for server-to-server communications, celery for task management, 
etc.  Then touch on some other seldom hit topics like diag nostic log 
management (log files, loggly, sentry, etc.) or how to manage upgrades of 
the application with introducing downtime.  You know, real world scenarios
that a service provider has to deal with.
   
 I guess that makes it less about Flask and more about how to build world 
class applications with Python that happen to use Flask as one of the many
parts.  That is part of my wish list =)
  
 - dave
  

     --
 There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most 
dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just 
good enough. -- Eric S. Raymond.
 





   On May 24, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Nico Gevers <nico@squire-labs.com> wrote:
  

   It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building a 
SaaS app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some 
people might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some 
corporate behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that 
includes SaaS specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS 
apps, it might be more appealing.

 

  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

    That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an 
example SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some 
sort of Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I
shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" 
and keep the focus there.

Does anyone have a thought on that note?

 Robert Picard

  
 
---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com> wrote ---- 

  

     Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain 

http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/



 

   On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:


     Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I 
definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just 
wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.

 Robert Picard

  

 
---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 Nathan M<feydaykyn@gmail.co 
m> wrote ---- 


  
   Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki 
and then push it on the flask repo ?

  Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :

    I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best 
practices for various development patterns that I thought a book was in 
order. This whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that 
will help new Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out 
of the scope of the tutorial in the documentation.

I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/

If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this, 
please let me know!

Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in 
real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,

 Robert Picard
http://robert.io/










  






  


  
  





  






 

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
James Willson
Date:
2013-05-30 @ 11:05
I love the sound of a flask book, would definitely buy it :)


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Harry Percival
<harry@pythonanywhere.com>wrote:

>   Hi Robert,
>
> Nice to meet a fellow book author!  I’m writing a book on TDD web
> development for http://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/  -- still in its early
> days, and based on Django, but you’re very welcome to take a look, for
> inspiration, if you’re planning to include a mention of testing / TDD.
> Also very happy to help out if you want someone to do a tech review of a
> chapter on TDD (although I far from being a world expert!)
>
> Also happy to share any tips and tricks I’ve learned (eg, use asciidoc!) –
> my personal email is obeythetestinggoat@gmail.com
>
> Another thing – have you thought of doing a kickstarter to raise some
> money for the book?  The last person I know that was going to write a book
> about web-dev did, and raised way more than I ever got given as an advance
> by a “real publisher” --
> 
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1369857650/real-python-for-web-development-featuring-web2py
>
> With that said, do also get in touch if you want to be put in touch with a
> “real publisher”.  My editor did mention something about flask the other
> day...
>
> HP
>
> --
> Harry Percival
> Developer
> harry@pythonanywhere.com
>
> PythonAnywhere - a fully browser-based Python development and hosting
> environment
> <http://www.pythonanywhere.com/>
>
> PythonAnywhere LLP
> 17a Clerkenwell Road, London EC1M 5RD, UK
> VAT No.: GB 893 5643 79
> Registered in England and Wales as company number OC378414.
> Registered address: 28 Ely Place, 3rd Floor, London EC1N 6TD, UK
>
>  *From:* Robert Picard <mail@robert.io>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:19 PM
> *To:* flask@librelist.com
> *Subject:* Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted
>
>  Haha, it's a little too early I think. I'll think about setting up a
> pre-order when I get a little closer to the launch. If you sign-up to the
> mailing list you'll be one of the first to hear about it!
>
> Robert Picard
> http://robert.io
>
>
> ---- On Sun, 26 May 2013 07:12:28 -0500 *Chris Hancock <chs2048@gmail.com>
> * wrote ----
>
>  Any chance of an extreme discount for an extreme pre-order? :-D
>
>
> On 24 May 2013 18:18, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
>
> **
> Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. The more I think about it, the more I
> agree with you and Nico. I think I'll cover a more general theme while
> using the SaaS example app as a lens through which to teach it. I don't
> want to put myself in an arbitrary box while writing, and I certainly don't
> want to alienate people who might not be working on a SaaS app, but could
> still benefit from the book.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions guys!
>
> Robert Picard
> http://robert.io
>
> ---- On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:46 -0500 *Dave Shawley<
> daveshawley@gmail.com>* wrote ----
>
>   I agree with Nico on this one.  Using an application as a case study
> throughout the book is nice.  It provides a consistent backdrop for what
> you are trying to communicate.  I wouldn't put it in the title though
> unless you are planning on writing a very targeted book.  "Real World
> Flask" or something like that might be a better title.  Don't concentrate a
> lot on the application that you are building, just use it as the backdrop
> for exposing and conquering the really interesting issues.
>
> Personally, I would love to see a concentration on how Flask can be used
> as the application layer working together with other best in breed
> libraries and technologies.  I'm thinking of stuff like Kenneth Reitz's
> requests for server-to-server communications, celery for task management,
> etc.  Then touch on some other seldom hit topics like diag nostic log
> management (log files, loggly, sentry, etc.) or how to manage upgrades of
> the application with introducing downtime.  You know, real world scenarios
> that a service provider has to deal with.
>
> I guess that makes it less about Flask and more about how to build world
> class applications with Python that happen to use Flask as one of the many
> parts.  That is part of my wish list =)
>
> - dave
>
>   --
> There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous
> enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good
> enough. -- Eric S. Raymond.
>
>  On May 24, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Nico Gevers <nico@squire-labs.com> wrote:
>
>
>  It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building a SaaS
> app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some people
> might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some corporate
> behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that includes SaaS
> specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS apps, it might
> be more appealing.
>
>
>  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
>
> **
>  That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an example
> SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some sort of
> Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I
> shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" and
> keep the focus there.
>
> Does anyone have a thought on that note?
>
> Robert Picard
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 *dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com>*wrote ----
>
>
>
>    - Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain
>    -
>    
http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/
>
> **
>
>
>  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
>
> **
>  Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I
> definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just
> wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.
>
> Robert Picard
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 *Nathan M<feydaykyn@gmail.co 
m>*wrote ----
>
>  Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki
> and then push it on the flask repo ?
>  Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :
>
> **
>  I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best practices
> for various development patterns that I thought a book was in order. This
> whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that will help new
> Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out of the scope of
> the tutorial in the documentation.
>
> I wrote a little about what I'm doing here:
> http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/
>
> If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this,
> please let me know!
>
> Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in
> real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
> with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> Thanks,
> **
> Robert Picard
> http://robert.io/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted

From:
Robert Picard
Date:
2013-05-30 @ 12:19
Thanks! I really appreciate the support. Make sure to sign-up for my 
mailing list here: http://eepurl.com/zMeIb

Robert Picard
http://robert.io



---- On Thu, 30 May 2013 06:05:48 -0500 James 
Willson<mail@employ.com> wrote ---- 


I love the sound of a flask book, would definitely buy it :)


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Harry Percival 
<harry@pythonanywhere.com> wrote:
     Hi Robert,
  
 Nice to meet a fellow book author!  I’m writing a book on TDD web 
development for http://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/  -- still in its early 
days, and based on Django, but you’re very welcome to take a look, for 
inspiration, if you’re planning to include a mention of testing / TDD.  
Also very happy to help out if you want someone to do a tech review of a 
chapter on TDD (although I far from being a world expert!)
  
 Also happy to share any tips and tricks I’ve learned (eg, use asciidoc!) 
– my personal email is obeythetestinggoat@gmail.com  
  
 Another thing – have you thought of doing a kickstarter to raise some 
money for the book?  The last person I know that was going to write a book
about web-dev did, and raised way more than I ever got given as an advance
by a “real publisher” -- 
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1369857650/real-python-for-web-development-featuring-web2py
  
 With that said, do also get in touch if you want to be put in touch with 
a “real publisher”.  My editor did mention something about flask the other
day...
  
 HP
  
 -- 
Harry Percival
Developer
harry@pythonanywhere.com

PythonAnywhere - a fully browser-based Python development and hosting environment
<http://www.pythonanywhere.com/>

PythonAnywhere LLP
17a Clerkenwell Road, London EC1M 5RD, UK
VAT No.: GB 893 5643 79
Registered in England and Wales as company number OC378414.
Registered address: 28 Ely Place, 3rd Floor, London EC1N 6TD, UK
    
  From: Robert Picard 
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:19 PM
 To: flask@librelist.com 
 Subject: Re: [flask] I'm writing a book on Flask -- suggestions wanted


  

  Haha, it's a little too early I think. I'll think about setting up a 
pre-order when I get a little closer to the launch. If you sign-up to the 
mailing list you'll be one of the first to hear about it!

 Robert Picard
http://robert.io

  
 
---- On Sun, 26 May 2013 07:12:28 -0500 Chris Hancock 
<chs2048@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


 
 Any chance of an extreme discount for an extreme pre-order? :-D
 


 On 24 May 2013 18:18, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:
 
  Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. The more I think about it, the more I
agree with you and Nico. I think I'll cover a more general theme while 
using the SaaS example app as a lens through which to teach it. I don't 
want to put myself in an arbitrary box while writing, and I certainly 
don't want to alienate people who might not be working on a SaaS app, but 
could still benefit from the book.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

 Robert Picard

http://robert.io
 
---- On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:42:46 -0500 Dave 
Shawley<daveshawley@gmail.com> wrote ---- 


 
   I agree with Nico on this one.  Using an application as a case study 
throughout the book is nice.  It provides a consistent backdrop for what 
you are trying to communicate.  I wouldn't put it in the title though 
unless you are planning on writing a very targeted book.  "Real World 
Flask" or something like that might be a better title.  Don't concentrate 
a lot on the application that you are building, just use it as the 
backdrop for exposing and conquering the really interesting issues.
  

 
Personally, I would love to see a concentration on how Flask can be used 
as the application layer working together with other best in breed 
libraries and technologies.  I'm thinking of stuff like Kenneth Reitz's 
requests for server-to-server communications, celery for task management, 
etc.  Then touch on some other seldom hit topics like diag nostic log 
management (log files, loggly, sentry, etc.) or how to manage upgrades of 
the application with introducing downtime.  You know, real world scenarios
that a service provider has to deal with.
   
 I guess that makes it less about Flask and more about how to build world 
class applications with Python that happen to use Flask as one of the many
parts.  That is part of my wish list =)
  
 - dave
  

     --
 There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most 
dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just 
good enough. -- Eric S. Raymond.
 





   On May 24, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Nico Gevers <nico@squire-labs.com> wrote:
  

   It really depends what you want your focus to be. For me building a 
SaaS app isn't the important factor. Building a good Flask app is. Some 
people might not be interested in SaaS (maybe they're building some 
corporate behind-the-firewall app) and might be put off by a title that 
includes SaaS specifically. Then again, for those who want to build SaaS 
apps, it might be more appealing.

 

  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:

    That one is actually on my list too. I'm leaning toward using an 
example SaaS application throughout the book and my current idea is some 
sort of Highrise clone. Now that I type that, I'm beginning to wonder if I
shouldn't call the book something like "Building a SaaS app with Flask" 
and keep the focus there.

Does anyone have a thought on that note?

 Robert Picard

  
 
---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:21 -0500 dorian 
i<dorian.hoxha@gmail.com> wrote ---- 

  

     Saas with per-tenant subdomain and per-tenant custom domain 

http://www.reddit.com/r/flask/comments/1dxcin/af_what_topics_should_a_book_on_flask_cover/



 

   On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Robert Picard <mail@robert.io> wrote:


     Nope, I'm planning on self-publishing it as a commercial product. I 
definitely thought about going the open source route, but that just 
wouldn't be worth the time investment for me.

 Robert Picard

  

 
---- On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:12:42 -0500 Nathan M<feydaykyn@gmail.co 
m> wrote ---- 


  
   Is it going to be 'opensource' ? If so, what about using a github wiki 
and then push it on the flask repo ?

  Le 23 mai 2013 07:37, "Robert Picard" <mail@robert.io> a écrit :

    I'm not an expert, but I've spent enough time looking for best 
practices for various development patterns that I thought a book was in 
order. This whole summer is available to me, so I'm writing a book that 
will help new Flask developers learn more advanced patterns that are out 
of the scope of the tutorial in the documentation.

I wrote a little about what I'm doing here: 
http://robert.io/blog/2013/05/22/im-writing-a-book-on-flask/

If you have anything you think should be covered in a book like this, 
please let me know!

Also, I plan on including interviews with developers using Flask in 
real-world applications. If you have a web app in production that is built
with Flask, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,

 Robert Picard
http://robert.io/