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Fwd: Alternative key caps for thumbs

From:
Tom Short
Date:
2015-09-08 @ 00:02
I've swapped out some of my thumb keys from another keyboard. See this
linked pic

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8E-4Wg53FX9Rjl2VlFFUEVMZzI0bUN4d1dQSjhuZUIxcDJR/view>.
The
main effects are:

* Reversed keys--I think these are OEM profile keys inserted backwards.
Like the "flipped space bar", there's less of a ridge, so thumb presses are
more comfortable.

* Longer middle keys--For my thumbs, this is more natural. I haven't had
problems pressing the ends of the longer keys.

Has anyone else tried different profiles for the thumb keys? If so, what do
you like?

Re: [atreus] Fwd: Alternative key caps for thumbs

From:
Phil Hagelberg
Date:
2015-09-08 @ 04:20
Tom Short <tshort.rlists@gmail.com> writes:

> I've swapped out some of my thumb keys from another keyboard. See this
> linked pic. The main effects are:
>
> * Reversed keys--I think these are OEM profile keys inserted
> backwards. Like the "flipped space bar", there's less of a ridge, so
> thumb presses are more comfortable. 

I ended up using sculpted caps for a prototype, but it was only because
this was the only set I could find in prototype-friendly quantities:

  https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/17210673577/

Personally I think the sculpting is a wash for the non-thumb keys; it
really doesn't make a difference. It's a bit nicer for the 1x thumb keys
though. The problem is no one makes caps that are sculpted in the right
direction for the 1.5x keys. I think it would look pretty weird to mix
it up if you couldn't get them all sculpted the right way. Different
profiles for different rows also drives the cost up significantly; you
have to order 4x as many keys to get the same bulk discounts.

> * Longer middle keys--For my thumbs, this is more natural. I haven't
> had problems pressing the ends of the longer keys. 

My experience with keys longer than 1.5x is that they tend to have a lot
of wobble unless you introduce stabilizers. But I encourage folks to
experiment and try to find something that works for them.

-Phil

Re: [atreus] Fwd: Alternative key caps for thumbs

From:
Joe Schonbok
Date:
2015-09-08 @ 12:48
I bought a couple small packs of keycaps to get a mix of colors to help me
with the layout.  I got the "DCS" = sculpted profile, row 4, which is the
most slanted.  Like both of you, I put the higher edge to the inside on the
thumb keys. I like it a lot - I also like the different profile on the
modifier keycaps that I replaced - again, helps with the layout.  Now that
I'm used to the layout, they help me switch back and forth between the
Atreus and a standard keyboard.

What with the mis-matched keycaps, the homemade bump keys, and the stickers
mine looks like the hobo version of the Atreus - but I love it!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xyx981h3jqytv4f/Atreus.jpg?dl=0



On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 at 21:27 Phil Hagelberg <phil@hagelb.org> wrote:

> Tom Short <tshort.rlists@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I've swapped out some of my thumb keys from another keyboard. See this
> > linked pic. The main effects are:
> >
> > * Reversed keys--I think these are OEM profile keys inserted
> > backwards. Like the "flipped space bar", there's less of a ridge, so
> > thumb presses are more comfortable.
>
> I ended up using sculpted caps for a prototype, but it was only because
> this was the only set I could find in prototype-friendly quantities:
>
>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/17210673577/
>
> Personally I think the sculpting is a wash for the non-thumb keys; it
> really doesn't make a difference. It's a bit nicer for the 1x thumb keys
> though. The problem is no one makes caps that are sculpted in the right
> direction for the 1.5x keys. I think it would look pretty weird to mix
> it up if you couldn't get them all sculpted the right way. Different
> profiles for different rows also drives the cost up significantly; you
> have to order 4x as many keys to get the same bulk discounts.
>
> > * Longer middle keys--For my thumbs, this is more natural. I haven't
> > had problems pressing the ends of the longer keys.
>
> My experience with keys longer than 1.5x is that they tend to have a lot
> of wobble unless you introduce stabilizers. But I encourage folks to
> experiment and try to find something that works for them.
>
> -Phil
>