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Matias kits

From:
Phil Hagelberg
Date:
2015-05-09 @ 02:18
Hello everybody.

I updated the web site a while back about a shortage of Cherry clears,
the switches I use in the quiet kits. According to my supplier there's a
global worldwide shortage of these switches with no ETA on when they'll
be back in stock. Orders for quiet kits have been put on a separate wait list.

In the past I built a prototype board with Matias Quiet Click switches:

  https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/14654421878/

I was pretty impressed with the feel of these switches but couldn't
source keycaps for them (the prototype keycaps were harvested from a
thrift store find) so I never considered including them in the
kits. Anyway, recently the shortage of Clears caused me to revisit this
and I found that I could now source bulk keycaps for the Matias caps.

Yesterday the laser cut for the Matias-compatible switch plate finally
arrived, so I built out a prototype using some Matias switches I had.

  https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/17210673577/

It works great, so I placed an order for more Matias-compatible wooden
cases, and I hope to start selling kits that use the Matias Quiet Click
switches in the next week or two.

I'm curious as to whether anyone has strong opinions about the different
switch types. Personally I like the Matias Quiets better than Clears,
but I know everyone has their own preferences on the topic. At this
point I don't have a lot of choice regarding the quiet switches, but I
may also change over to Matias Clicky switches instead of blues in the
future too if they go over well.

cheers,
Phil

Re: [atreus] Matias kits

From:
Jeremy Dunck
Date:
2015-05-09 @ 03:49
Given the Cherry quiet shortage, would you entertain shipping Matias quiet
instead for my previous order?



On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Phil Hagelberg <phil@hagelb.org> wrote:

> Hello everybody.
>
> I updated the web site a while back about a shortage of Cherry clears,
> the switches I use in the quiet kits. According to my supplier there's a
> global worldwide shortage of these switches with no ETA on when they'll
> be back in stock. Orders for quiet kits have been put on a separate wait
> list.
>
> In the past I built a prototype board with Matias Quiet Click switches:
>
>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/14654421878/
>
> I was pretty impressed with the feel of these switches but couldn't
> source keycaps for them (the prototype keycaps were harvested from a
> thrift store find) so I never considered including them in the
> kits. Anyway, recently the shortage of Clears caused me to revisit this
> and I found that I could now source bulk keycaps for the Matias caps.
>
> Yesterday the laser cut for the Matias-compatible switch plate finally
> arrived, so I built out a prototype using some Matias switches I had.
>
>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/17210673577/
>
> It works great, so I placed an order for more Matias-compatible wooden
> cases, and I hope to start selling kits that use the Matias Quiet Click
> switches in the next week or two.
>
> I'm curious as to whether anyone has strong opinions about the different
> switch types. Personally I like the Matias Quiets better than Clears,
> but I know everyone has their own preferences on the topic. At this
> point I don't have a lot of choice regarding the quiet switches, but I
> may also change over to Matias Clicky switches instead of blues in the
> future too if they go over well.
>
> cheers,
> Phil
>

Re: [atreus] Matias kits

From:
Aj Christensen
Date:
2015-05-09 @ 03:51
Worth checking Gateron too! I have a set coming for my ergo ∞.

Cheers,

--aj
On May 9, 2015 3:49 PM, "Jeremy Dunck" <jdunck@gmail.com> wrote:

> Given the Cherry quiet shortage, would you entertain shipping Matias quiet
> instead for my previous order?
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Phil Hagelberg <phil@hagelb.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello everybody.
>>
>> I updated the web site a while back about a shortage of Cherry clears,
>> the switches I use in the quiet kits. According to my supplier there's a
>> global worldwide shortage of these switches with no ETA on when they'll
>> be back in stock. Orders for quiet kits have been put on a separate wait
>> list.
>>
>> In the past I built a prototype board with Matias Quiet Click switches:
>>
>>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/14654421878/
>>
>> I was pretty impressed with the feel of these switches but couldn't
>> source keycaps for them (the prototype keycaps were harvested from a
>> thrift store find) so I never considered including them in the
>> kits. Anyway, recently the shortage of Clears caused me to revisit this
>> and I found that I could now source bulk keycaps for the Matias caps.
>>
>> Yesterday the laser cut for the Matias-compatible switch plate finally
>> arrived, so I built out a prototype using some Matias switches I had.
>>
>>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/17210673577/
>>
>> It works great, so I placed an order for more Matias-compatible wooden
>> cases, and I hope to start selling kits that use the Matias Quiet Click
>> switches in the next week or two.
>>
>> I'm curious as to whether anyone has strong opinions about the different
>> switch types. Personally I like the Matias Quiets better than Clears,
>> but I know everyone has their own preferences on the topic. At this
>> point I don't have a lot of choice regarding the quiet switches, but I
>> may also change over to Matias Clicky switches instead of blues in the
>> future too if they go over well.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Phil
>>
>
>

Re: [atreus] Matias kits

From:
Phil Hagelberg
Date:
2015-05-09 @ 04:08
AJ Christensen <aj@junglistheavy.industries> writes:

> Worth checking Gateron too! I have a set coming for my ergo ∞.

Yeah... everything I've heard about Gaterons is that their linear
switches are super great, but their clicky ones are about the same as
blues. I've had no trouble sourcing blues. Plus Gateron Clears are
nothing like Cherry clears; afaik Gateron does not sell a quiet tactile
switch. So I don't think it makes a lot of sense for this particular
case.

-Phil

Re: [atreus] Matias kits

From:
Aj Christensen
Date:
2015-05-09 @ 04:13
Correct, the gateron clear is like the kinesis cherrymx brown I think?

Cheers,

--aj
On May 9, 2015 4:08 PM, "Phil Hagelberg" <phil@hagelb.org> wrote:

> AJ Christensen <aj@junglistheavy.industries> writes:
>
> > Worth checking Gateron too! I have a set coming for my ergo ∞.
>
> Yeah... everything I've heard about Gaterons is that their linear
> switches are super great, but their clicky ones are about the same as
> blues. I've had no trouble sourcing blues. Plus Gateron Clears are
> nothing like Cherry clears; afaik Gateron does not sell a quiet tactile
> switch. So I don't think it makes a lot of sense for this particular
> case.
>
> -Phil
>

Re: [atreus] Matias kits

From:
Phil Hagelberg
Date:
2015-05-09 @ 04:01
Jeremy Dunck <jdunck@gmail.com> writes:

> Given the Cherry quiet shortage, would you entertain shipping Matias quiet
> instead for my previous order?

Yes, definitely!

Sorry; I meant no mention this in my last email, but everyone who's
currently on the wait list for a clears kit will be contacted soon to
ask whether they would rather have Matias Quiet Click switches instead.
Just waiting for the order of cases to ship before I start sending
personal emails out.

-Phil

Re: [atreus] Matias kits

From:
Bojan Nastic
Date:
2015-05-09 @ 11:41
The UK based keyboardco.com seems to have lots of stock of MX clear (as
well as Matias switches and key caps). Might be worth checking with them?

Wrt Matias vs Cherry - I have an Atreus with Clears, and a Matias keyboard
with the quiet switch. Matias is bit more "wobbly", but I can't imagine
people not buying an Atreus because it's using a Matias switch.

--Bojan




On Saturday, 9 May 2015, Phil Hagelberg <phil@hagelb.org> wrote:

> Hello everybody.
>
> I updated the web site a while back about a shortage of Cherry clears,
> the switches I use in the quiet kits. According to my supplier there's a
> global worldwide shortage of these switches with no ETA on when they'll
> be back in stock. Orders for quiet kits have been put on a separate wait
> list.
>
> In the past I built a prototype board with Matias Quiet Click switches:
>
>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/14654421878/
>
> I was pretty impressed with the feel of these switches but couldn't
> source keycaps for them (the prototype keycaps were harvested from a
> thrift store find) so I never considered including them in the
> kits. Anyway, recently the shortage of Clears caused me to revisit this
> and I found that I could now source bulk keycaps for the Matias caps.
>
> Yesterday the laser cut for the Matias-compatible switch plate finally
> arrived, so I built out a prototype using some Matias switches I had.
>
>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/technomancy/17210673577/
>
> It works great, so I placed an order for more Matias-compatible wooden
> cases, and I hope to start selling kits that use the Matias Quiet Click
> switches in the next week or two.
>
> I'm curious as to whether anyone has strong opinions about the different
> switch types. Personally I like the Matias Quiets better than Clears,
> but I know everyone has their own preferences on the topic. At this
> point I don't have a lot of choice regarding the quiet switches, but I
> may also change over to Matias Clicky switches instead of blues in the
> future too if they go over well.
>
> cheers,
> Phil
>