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Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Joe Fiorini
Date:
2015-10-19 @ 14:19
I’ve always preferred to use my keyboard on an angle (ie. the standard 
Apple aluminum keyboards). Has anyone found (or made) legs to make the 
Atreus stand up in the back? Do you have any product recommendations or 
pictures I can see?

Thanks! 

-- 
Joe Fiorini

Re: [atreus] Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Phil Hagelberg
Date:
2015-10-19 @ 14:53
Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com> writes:

> I’ve always preferred to use my keyboard on an angle (ie. the standard
> Apple aluminum keyboards). Has anyone found (or made) legs to make the
> Atreus stand up in the back? Do you have any product recommendations
> or pictures I can see?

I would actually strongly recommend against this. Angling your wrists up
is one of the worst things you can do for them; it's the exact opposite
of what makes physiological sense. Some keyboards place risers on the
close edge of the keyboard rather than the far one, which makes a lot
more sense. I doubt you'd be able to get folding legs to work well, but
you could just place some larger furniture bumpers on it.

-Phil

Re: [atreus] Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Joe Fiorini
Date:
2015-10-19 @ 15:24
Good point. I’ve actually heard that before, I should probably just resign
myself to better ergonomics. I guess the problem I need to solve then is 
stabilizing my Atreus on my desk. Currently it shakes a lot as I’m typing 
because it’s not resting well on the screw heads (the bumpers that came 
with the kit are long gone). Anyone have a recommendation for bumpers or 
something they really like with the Atreus?

-- 
Joe Fiorini

On October 19, 2015 at 10:57:11 AM, Phil Hagelberg (phil@hagelb.org) wrote:

Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com> writes:  

> I’ve always preferred to use my keyboard on an angle (ie. the standard  
> Apple aluminum keyboards). Has anyone found (or made) legs to make the  
> Atreus stand up in the back? Do you have any product recommendations  
> or pictures I can see?  

I would actually strongly recommend against this. Angling your wrists up  
is one of the worst things you can do for them; it's the exact opposite  
of what makes physiological sense. Some keyboards place risers on the  
close edge of the keyboard rather than the far one, which makes a lot  
more sense. I doubt you'd be able to get folding legs to work well, but  
you could just place some larger furniture bumpers on it.  

-Phil  

Re: [atreus] Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Phil Hagelberg
Date:
2015-10-19 @ 15:31
Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com> writes:

> Currently it shakes a lot as I’m typing because it’s not resting well
> on the screw heads (the bumpers that came with the kit are long
> gone). Anyone have a recommendation for bumpers or something they
> really like with the Atreus?

Gotcha, yeah. If you're having trouble getting the bumpers to stay, try
some white glue to supplement the adhesive they come with. You can
usually find those kinds of bumpers at Home Depot or the like.

-Phil

Re: [atreus] Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Dejan Ranisavljevic
Date:
2015-10-19 @ 15:31
So the screw hole is 3mm i think, i have additionally drilled the whole on
both sizes with drill 5,6mm, but only for couple of millimeters, so bolts 
would get inside, and i got a nice flat surface, also bumpers from kit 
work just fine after drilling the holes, and putting the bolts bellow the 
keyboard.

Check the picture here https://instagram.com/p/88VGvnIFDS/?taken-by=dejanr
<https://instagram.com/p/88VGvnIFDS/?taken-by=dejanr>

I need to find black screws, and it would be perfect for me.

> On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com> wrote:
> 
> Good point. I’ve actually heard that before, I should probably just 
resign myself to better ergonomics. I guess the problem I need to solve 
then is stabilizing my Atreus on my desk. Currently it shakes a lot as I’m
typing because it’s not resting well on the screw heads (the bumpers that 
came with the kit are long gone). Anyone have a recommendation for bumpers
or something they really like with the Atreus?
> 
> -- 
> Joe Fiorini
> 
> On October 19, 2015 at 10:57:11 AM, Phil Hagelberg (phil@hagelb.org 
<mailto:p hil@hagelb.org>) wrote:
> 
>> Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com <mailto:joe@joefiorini.com>> writes: 
>> 
>> > I’ve always preferred to use my keyboard on an angle (ie. the standard 
>> > Apple aluminum keyboards). Has anyone found (or made) legs to make the 
>> > Atreus stand up in the back? Do you have any product recommendations 
>> > or pictures I can see? 
>> 
>> I would actually strongly recommend against this. Angling your wrists up 
>> is one of the worst things you can do for them; it's the exact opposite 
>> of what makes physiological sense. Some keyboards place risers on the 
>> close edge of the keyboard rather than the far one, which makes a lot 
>> more sense. I doubt you'd be able to get folding legs to work well, but 
>> you could just place some larger furniture bumpers on it. 
>> 
>> -Phil

Re: [atreus] Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Joe Fiorini
Date:
2015-10-19 @ 22:28
Dejan,

Thanks for the tip! I'm not sure how thick your layers are, but I think
my bottom layer is too thin to be able to do that. Did you have an issue
with that?

--
Joe Fiorini
 
 
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Dejan Ranisavljevic wrote:
> So the screw hole is 3mm i think, i have additionally drilled the whole 
on both sizes with drill 5,6mm, but only for couple of millimeters, so 
bolts would get inside, and i got a nice flat surface, also bumpers from 
kit work just fine after drilling the holes, and putting the bolts bellow 
the keyboard.
>  
> Check the picture here https://instagram.com/p/88VGvnIFDS/?taken-by=dejanr
>  
> I need to find black screws, and it would be perfect for me.
>  
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Joe Fiorini <joe@joefio
 rini.com[1]> wrote:
>>  
>> Good point. I’ve actually heard that before, I should probably just 
resign myself to better ergonomics. I guess the problem I need to solve 
then is stabilizing my Atreus on my desk. Currently it shakes a lot as I’m
typing because it’s not resting well on the screw heads (the bumpers that 
came with the kit are long gone). Anyone have a recommendation for bumpers
or something they really like with the Atreus?
>>  
>> -- 
>> Joe Fiorini
>>  
>> On October 19, 2015 at 10:57:11 AM, Phil Hagelberg (phil@hagelb.org[2]) wrote:


>>>  
>>>  
>>> Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com> writes: 
>>> 
>>> > I’ve always preferred to use my keyboard on an angle (ie. the standard 
>>> > Apple aluminum keyboards). Has anyone found (or made) legs to make the 
>>> > Atreus stand up in the back? Do you have any product recommendations 
>>> > or pictures I can see? 
>>> 
>>> I would actually strongly recommend against this. Angling your wrists up 
>>> is one of the worst things you can do for them; it's the exact opposite 
>>> of what makes physiological sense. Some keyboards place risers on the 
>>> close edge of the keyboard rather than the far one, which makes a lot 
>>> more sense. I doubt you'd be able to get folding legs to work well, but 
>>> you could just place some larger furniture bumpers on it. 
>>> 
>>> -Phil
> br class="">
 


Links:

  1. mailto:joe@joefiorini.com
  2. mailto:p hil@hagelb.org

Re: [atreus] Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Dejan Ranisavljevic
Date:
2015-10-19 @ 22:40
No issues, acrylic is pretty strong, and i needed only couple of 
milimeters from both sides.
I also used different screws, 3x16mm. And countersink hole 
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/Countersinking.htm 
<http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/Countersinking.htm>

> On Oct 20, 2015, at 12:28 AM, Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com> wrote:
> 
> Dejan,
>  
> Thanks for the tip! I'm not sure how thick your layers are, but I think 
my bottom layer is too thin to be able to do that. Did you have an issue 
with that?
>  
> --
> Joe Fiorini
>  
>  
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Dejan Ranisavljevic wrote:
>> So the screw hole is 3mm i think, i have additionally drilled the whole
on both sizes with drill 5,6mm, but only for couple of millimeters, so 
bolts would get inside, and i got a nice flat surface, also bumpers from 
kit work just fine after drilling the holes, and putting the bolts bellow 
the keyboard.
>>  
>> Check the picture here 
https://instagram.com/p/88VGvnIFDS/?taken-by=dejanr 
<https://instagram.com/p/88VGvnIFDS/?taken-by=dejanr>
>>  
>> I need to find black screws, and it would be perfect for me.
>>  
>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Joe Fiorini <joe@joefio rini.com 
<mailto:joe@joefiorini.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Good point. I’ve actually heard that before, I should probably just 
resign myself to better ergonomics. I guess the problem I need to solve 
then is stabilizing my Atreus on my desk. Currently it shakes a lot as I’m
typing because it’s not resting well on the screw heads (the bumpers that 
came with the kit are long gone). Anyone have a recommendation for bumpers
or something they really like with the Atreus?
>>>  
>>> -- 
>>> Joe Fiorini
>>>  
>>> On October 19, 2015 at 10:57:11 AM, Phil Hagelberg (phil@hagelb.org 
<mailto:p hil@hagelb.org>) wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com <mailto:joe@joefiorini.com>> writes: 
>>>> 
>>>> > I’ve always preferred to use my keyboard on an angle (ie. the standard 
>>>> > Apple aluminum keyboards). Has anyone found (or made) legs to make the 
>>>> > Atreus stand up in the back? Do you have any product recommendations 
>>>> > or pictures I can see? 
>>>> 
>>>> I would actually strongly recommend against this. Angling your wrists up 
>>>> is one of the worst things you can do for them; it's the exact opposite 
>>>> of what makes physiological sense. Some keyboards place risers on the 
>>>> close edge of the keyboard rather than the far one, which makes a lot 
>>>> more sense. I doubt you'd be able to get folding legs to work well, but 
>>>> you could just place some larger furniture bumpers on it. 
>>>> 
>>>> -Phil
>> 
>> br class="">
>  

Re: [atreus] Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Matt Gauger
Date:
2015-10-20 @ 14:11
I would recommend my DIY solution if you don't have bumpers: using Sugru
https://sugru.com/ to sculpt soft little feet for your keyboard next to all
the bolt holes. You may additionally want to file down the bolt if it
sticks past the nut so that it is smoother and can't gouge tabletops.

The other thing I've thought about (for doing a negative tilt keyboard,
where it angles away from you, like Phil described) is getting the rubber
feet for furniture that are intended to be screwed onto furniture legs, and
using some longer bolts to attach them in the normal bolt holes.

That's just an idea though. I haven't played with heights or have an actual
amount to recommend for negative tilting.

--
Matt Gauger

On Monday, October 19, 2015, Dejan Ranisavljevic <
dejan.ranisavljevic@gmail.com> wrote:

> No issues, acrylic is pretty strong, and i needed only couple of
> milimeters from both sides.
> I also used different screws, 3x16mm. And countersink hole
> http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/Countersinking.htm
>
> On Oct 20, 2015, at 12:28 AM, Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joe@joefiorini.com');>> wrote:
>
> Dejan,
>
> Thanks for the tip! I'm not sure how thick your layers are, but I think my
> bottom layer is too thin to be able to do that. Did you have an issue with
> that?
>
> --
> Joe Fiorini
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Dejan Ranisavljevic wrote:
>
> So the screw hole is 3mm i think, i have additionally drilled the whole on
> both sizes with drill 5,6mm, but only for couple of millimeters, so bolts
> would get inside, and i got a nice flat surface, also bumpers from kit work
> just fine after drilling the holes, and putting the bolts bellow the
> keyboard.
>
> Check the picture here https://instagram.com/p/88VGvnIFDS/?taken-by=dejanr
>
> I need to find black screws, and it would be perfect for me.
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Joe Fiorini <joe@joefio rini.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joe@joefiorini.com');>> wrote:
>
> Good point. I’ve actually heard that before, I should probably just resign
> myself to better ergonomics. I guess the problem I need to solve then is
> stabilizing my Atreus on my desk. Currently it shakes a lot as I’m typing
> because it’s not resting well on the screw heads (the bumpers that came
> with the kit are long gone). Anyone have a recommendation for bumpers or
> something they really like with the Atreus?
>
> --
> Joe Fiorini
>
>
> On October 19, 2015 at 10:57:11 AM, Phil Hagelberg (phil@hagelb.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','p%2Bhil@hagelb.org');>) wrote:
>
>
>
> Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joe@joefiorini.com');>> writes:
>
> > I’ve always preferred to use my keyboard on an angle (ie. the standard
> > Apple aluminum keyboards). Has anyone found (or made) legs to make the
> > Atreus stand up in the back? Do you have any product recommendations
> > or pictures I can see?
>
> I would actually strongly recommend against this. Angling your wrists up
> is one of the worst things you can do for them; it's the exact opposite
> of what makes physiological sense. Some keyboards place risers on the
> close edge of the keyboard rather than the far one, which makes a lot
> more sense. I doubt you'd be able to get folding legs to work well, but
> you could just place some larger furniture bumpers on it.
>
> -Phil
>
> br class="">
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
Matt Gauger

Re: [atreus] Feet/standups for Atreus

From:
Joe Fiorini
Date:
2015-10-20 @ 14:12
Matt,

Omg, great idea with the Sugru, I happen to have some in my refrigerator! 
I’ll be playing with that today for sure!


On October 20, 2015 at 10:12:10 AM, Matt Gauger (matt.gauger@gmail.com) wrote:

I would recommend my DIY solution if you don't have bumpers: using 
Sugru https://sugru.com/ to sculpt soft little feet for your keyboard next
to all the bolt holes. You may additionally want to file down the bolt if 
it sticks past the nut so that it is smoother and can't gouge tabletops.

The other thing I've thought about (for doing a negative tilt keyboard, 
where it angles away from you, like Phil described) is getting the rubber 
feet for furniture that are intended to be screwed onto furniture legs, 
and using some longer bolts to attach them in the normal bolt holes. 

That's just an idea though. I haven't played with heights or have an 
actual amount to recommend for negative tilting. 

--
Matt Gauger

On Monday, October 19, 2015, Dejan Ranisavljevic 
<dejan.ranisavljevic@gmail.com > wrote:
No issues, acrylic is pretty strong, and i needed only couple of 
milimeters from both sides.
I also used different screws, 3x16mm. And countersink 
hole http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/Countersinking.htm

On Oct 20, 2015, at 12:28 AM, Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com> wrote:

Dejan,
 
Thanks for the tip! I'm not sure how thick your layers are, but I think my
bottom layer is too thin to be able to do that. Did you have an issue with
that?
 
--
Joe Fiorini
 
 
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Dejan Ranisavljevic wrote:
So the screw hole is 3mm i think, i have additionally drilled the whole on
both sizes with drill 5,6mm, but only for couple of millimeters, so bolts 
would get inside, and i got a nice flat surface, also bumpers from kit 
work just fine after drilling the holes, and putting the bolts bellow the 
keyboard.
 
Check the picture here https://instagram.com/p/88VGvnIFDS/?taken-by=dejanr
 
I need to find black screws, and it would be perfect for me.
 
On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Joe Fiorini <joe@joefio rini.com> wrote:
 
Good point. I’ve actually heard that before, I should probably just resign
myself to better ergonomics. I guess the problem I need to solve then is 
stabilizing my Atreus on my desk. Currently it shakes a lot as I’m typing 
because it’s not resting well on the screw heads (the bumpers that came 
with the kit are long gone). Anyone have a recommendation for bumpers or 
something they really like with the Atreus?
 
-- 
Joe Fiorini
 
On October 19, 2015 at 10:57:11 AM, Phil Hagelberg (phil@hagelb.org) wrote:

 
 
Joe Fiorini <joe@joefiorini.com> writes: 

> I’ve always preferred to use my keyboard on an angle (ie. the standard 
> Apple aluminum keyboards). Has anyone found (or made) legs to make the 
> Atreus stand up in the back? Do you have any product recommendations 
> or pictures I can see? 

I would actually strongly recommend against this. Angling your wrists up 
is one of the worst things you can do for them; it's the exact opposite 
of what makes physiological sense. Some keyboards place risers on the 
close edge of the keyboard rather than the far one, which makes a lot 
more sense. I doubt you'd be able to get folding legs to work well, but 
you could just place some larger furniture bumpers on it. 

-Phil
br class="">
 



--
Matt Gauger