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Lower left alphas

Lower left alphas

From:
Joe Fruchey
Date:
2015-10-14 @ 21:02
So, in switching to the Atreus, I've discovered that I type "wrong." I'm
assuming it's due to trying to use a more ergonomic hand placement on a
standard board, but my columns are all off by one finger.

Whereas the keyboard columns are QAZ, WSX, EDC, etc., and those are the
recommended typing columns, I hit the lower left keys one to the left,
QAShift, WSZ, EDX... I'm considering remapping to that, but I have no idea
what I would do with the B key. Logically, I would wrap around and place it
in Shift's former location, but that seems crazy.

Anybody else run into this? Should I just get used to the Atreus columns?

Re: [atreus] Lower left alphas

From:
Michael Reilly
Date:
2015-10-14 @ 21:06
Just get used to it. Your hands will thank you, and this very issue is in
my opinion one of the biggest problems with traditional horizontal stagger
- it works well for the right hand but makes no sense with the left.

Cheers, and good luck
On Oct 14, 2015 2:02 PM, "Joe Fruchey" <joe@fruchey.net> wrote:

> So, in switching to the Atreus, I've discovered that I type "wrong." I'm
> assuming it's due to trying to use a more ergonomic hand placement on a
> standard board, but my columns are all off by one finger.
>
> Whereas the keyboard columns are QAZ, WSX, EDC, etc., and those are the
> recommended typing columns, I hit the lower left keys one to the left,
> QAShift, WSZ, EDX... I'm considering remapping to that, but I have no idea
> what I would do with the B key. Logically, I would wrap around and place it
> in Shift's former location, but that seems crazy.
>
> Anybody else run into this? Should I just get used to the Atreus columns?
>

Re: [atreus] Lower left alphas

From:
Joe Schonbok
Date:
2015-10-14 @ 23:30
I agree, practice and get used to it. The keys are differently arranged on
a hardware level - you won't be able to compensate with software - gotta
get it into the wetware.

I found it very helpful to have bumps on the f/j keys to keep my hand from
wandering while I learned the new stretches. A dab of glue can do that PDQ
if you don't have any spare bump keycaps.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 2:07 PM Michael Reilly <mreilly95@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just get used to it. Your hands will thank you, and this very issue is in
> my opinion one of the biggest problems with traditional horizontal stagger
> - it works well for the right hand but makes no sense with the left.
>
> Cheers, and good luck
> On Oct 14, 2015 2:02 PM, "Joe Fruchey" <joe@fruchey.net> wrote:
>
>> So, in switching to the Atreus, I've discovered that I type "wrong." I'm
>> assuming it's due to trying to use a more ergonomic hand placement on a
>> standard board, but my columns are all off by one finger.
>>
>> Whereas the keyboard columns are QAZ, WSX, EDC, etc., and those are the
>> recommended typing columns, I hit the lower left keys one to the left,
>> QAShift, WSZ, EDX... I'm considering remapping to that, but I have no idea
>> what I would do with the B key. Logically, I would wrap around and place it
>> in Shift's former location, but that seems crazy.
>>
>> Anybody else run into this? Should I just get used to the Atreus columns?
>>
>

Re: [atreus] Lower left alphas

From:
Stephen Hassard
Date:
2015-10-14 @ 23:35
For me it felt like the missing bumps on f/j slowed down my ability to 
pick up the new layout quickly. I definitely had a little too much hand 
wandering the first week of serious usage on my Atreus. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Joe Schonbok <joebok@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree, practice and get used to it. The keys are differently arranged 
on a hardware level - you won't be able to compensate with software - 
gotta get it into the wetware.
> 
> I found it very helpful to have bumps on the f/j keys to keep my hand 
from wandering while I learned the new stretches. A dab of glue can do 
that PDQ if you don't have any spare bump keycaps.
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 2:07 PM Michael Reilly <mreilly95@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just get used to it. Your hands will thank you, and this very issue is 
in my opinion one of the biggest problems with traditional horizontal 
stagger - it works well for the right hand but makes no sense with the 
left.
>> 
>> Cheers, and good luck
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2015 2:02 PM, "Joe Fruchey" <joe@fruchey.net> wrote:
>>> So, in switching to the Atreus, I've discovered that I type "wrong." 
I'm assuming it's due to trying to use a more ergonomic hand placement on 
a standard board, but my columns are all off by one finger.
>>> 
>>> Whereas the keyboard columns are QAZ, WSX, EDC, etc., and those are 
the recommended typing columns, I hit the lower left keys one to the left,
QAShift, WSZ, EDX... I'm considering remapping to that, but I have no idea
what I would do with the B key. Logically, I would wrap around and place 
it in Shift's former location, but that seems crazy.
>>> 
>>> Anybody else run into this? Should I just get used to the Atreus columns?
>>> < /div>

Re: [atreus] Lower left alphas

From:
Joe Fruchey
Date:
2015-10-15 @ 00:15
I guess my concern is that I'll lose my ability to type comfortably on a
normal board.

Regarding homing, I had PBT DSA blanks with dishes, but I just loaded up
beautiful SA Retro spares with the awesome scoops... It's great!
On Oct 14, 2015 19:04, "Stephen Hassard" <steve@hassard.net> wrote:

> For me it felt like the missing bumps on f/j slowed down my ability to
> pick up the new layout quickly. I definitely had a little too much hand
> wandering the first week of serious usage on my Atreus.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Joe Schonbok <joebok@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree, practice and get used to it. The keys are differently arranged on
> a hardware level - you won't be able to compensate with software - gotta
> get it into the wetware.
>
> I found it very helpful to have bumps on the f/j keys to keep my hand from
> wandering while I learned the new stretches. A dab of glue can do that PDQ
> if you don't have any spare bump keycaps.
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 2:07 PM Michael Reilly <mreilly95@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just get used to it. Your hands will thank you, and this very issue is in
>> my opinion one of the biggest problems with traditional horizontal stagger
>> - it works well for the right hand but makes no sense with the left.
>>
>> Cheers, and good luck
>> On Oct 14, 2015 2:02 PM, "Joe Fruchey" <joe@fruchey.net> wrote:
>>
>>> So, in switching to the Atreus, I've discovered that I type "wrong." I'm
>>> assuming it's due to trying to use a more ergonomic hand placement on a
>>> standard board, but my columns are all off by one finger.
>>>
>>> Whereas the keyboard columns are QAZ, WSX, EDC, etc., and those are the
>>> recommended typing columns, I hit the lower left keys one to the left,
>>> QAShift, WSZ, EDX... I'm considering remapping to that, but I have no idea
>>> what I would do with the B key. Logically, I would wrap around and place it
>>> in Shift's former location, but that seems crazy.
>>>
>>> Anybody else run into this? Should I just get used to the Atreus columns?
>>> < /div>
>>>
>>

Re: Lower left alphas

From:
Alexander Baier
Date:
2015-10-15 @ 08:12
On 2015-10-14 19:15 Joe Fruchey wrote:
> I guess my concern is that I'll lose my ability to type comfortably on
> a normal board.

In my experience this is not too much of a problem.  I usually only need
a couple of minutes to adjust my brain, after switching from/to
staggered layout.

Regards,
-- 
Alexander Baier