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Flickering on Vista?

Flickering on Vista? by Steve Klabnik
- Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista? by i5m
  - Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista? by ashbb
    - Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista? by Steve Klabnik
      - Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista? by Fela Winkelmolen
      - Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista? by Devyn Cairns

Flickering on Vista?

From:: Steve Klabnik
Date:: 2010-06-26 @ 02:26

Hey guys. I just got a bunch of bug reports in using the windows version of
Hackety on Vista. Has anyone else tried it (or even just plain Shoes?) I
know that ashbb tests it on XP, right?

I hope that there aren't issues between versions of Windows... that's almost
as bad as the whole Snow Leopard debacle.

Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista?

From:: i5m
Date:: 2010-06-26 @ 19:34

Sorry, don't have access to Vista. I've only access to XP (because of 
work). And we'll be skipping Vista and moving  to Windows 7 later this 
year. 

On 26 Jun 2010, at 03:26, Steve Klabnik <steve@steveklabnik.com> wrote:

> Hey guys. I just got a bunch of bug reports in using the windows version
of Hackety on Vista. Has anyone else tried it (or even just plain Shoes?) 
I know that ashbb tests it on XP, right?
> 
> I hope that there aren't issues between versions of Windows... that's 
almost as bad as the whole Snow Leopard debacle.

Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista?

From:: ashbb
Date:: 2010-06-27 @ 01:01

Hi Steve et al,

Flickering screen is a very big and common problem in Windows.
You'll find lots of articles by googling.

After Vista, Windows seems to change the way to repaint background images.
:(

I read some Japanese articles, it said that `double buffering` technique is
one of the solutions.

But sorry, it's too difficult for me now. Because...

- I don't have enough skill to implement double buffering.
- I don't have Vista or Windows7 pc.
  # I can sometimes use them, but can't develop Shoes on them.

I don't have a complete solution so far. But I think this issue is not
always occurred. I know Shoes opening window, Shoes.splash method, is no
good. But almost all my tiny Shoes apps don't have this problem.

So, I think we can find some workarounds in individual cases. ;-)

Could you show me the code individually? Let's find a workaround. :-D

Regards,
ashbb

Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista?

From:: Steve Klabnik
Date:: 2010-06-27 @ 01:28

Hey ashbb-


> After Vista, Windows seems to change the way to repaint background images.
> :(
>

Ah, that'd make sense.


> I read some Japanese articles, it said that `double buffering` technique is
> one of the solutions.
>

Sounds about right. I'll have to take a deeper look at it.

Could you show me the code individually? Let's find a workaround. :-D


Totally. I'll take a good look, and post something when I find an example.

I should really get a copy of Vista and put it on my Macbook... *shudder*
The things I do for Shoes! ;)

-Steve

Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista?

From:: Fela Winkelmolen
Date:: 2010-06-27 @ 09:42

> Hey ashbb-
> 
> > After Vista, Windows seems to change the way to repaint background
> > images.
> > 
> > :(
> 
> Ah, that'd make sense.
> 
> > I read some Japanese articles, it said that `double buffering` technique
> > is one of the solutions.
> 
> Sounds about right. I'll have to take a deeper look at it.
> 
> Could you show me the code individually? Let's find a workaround. :-D
> 
> 
> Totally. I'll take a good look, and post something when I find an example.
> 
> I should really get a copy of Vista and put it on my Macbook... *shudder*
> The things I do for Shoes! ;)
> 
> -Steve

I almost never boot into it but I have Win7 installed, I will try to see if I 
can reproduce it there.

Re: [shoes] Flickering on Vista?

From:: Devyn Cairns
Date:: 2010-06-27 @ 03:29

Haha—I have Win7 on this MacBook… I'll try it the next time I'm on Win7.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Steve Klabnik <steve@steveklabnik.com>wrote:

> Hey ashbb-
>
>
>> After Vista, Windows seems to change the way to repaint background images.
>> :(
>>
>
> Ah, that'd make sense.
>
>
>> I read some Japanese articles, it said that `double buffering` technique
>> is one of the solutions.
>>
>
> Sounds about right. I'll have to take a deeper look at it.
>
> Could you show me the code individually? Let's find a workaround. :-D
>
>
> Totally. I'll take a good look, and post something when I find an example.
>
> I should really get a copy of Vista and put it on my Macbook... *shudder*
> The things I do for Shoes! ;)
>
> -Steve
>



-- 
   ~devyn