Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- Vojtěch Šalbaba
- Date:
- 2010-05-26 @ 17:07
My guess is that most shoes app are quick and dirty "proof of concept"
applications. I haven't seen anything really big, but I would like to be
proven wrong. In the days of yore I built a relatively medium app which
tried to do things MVC style (http://the-shoebox.org/apps/167, shameless
self promotion!), but although it did what it was meant to do (earn me
school credits) it failed at proper MVC. But it uses some observer pattern
for history. And it won't probably work with latest shoes anyway. So no
point me bringing it up, really.
Regards,
Vojtěch Šalbaba
2010/5/26 Artyom Bolshkov <tweekane@gmail.com>
> ashbb,
>
> thanks, this helps! I killed last day solving this problem.
> Actualy i need to do this in separate thread, but at first i desided to
> make it without threads.
>
> And what about MVC in shoes?
> I have seen lot of examples at the-shoebox.org and
> shoes-tutorial-note.heroku.com
> nobody uses mvc.
>
> Regards,
> Artyom
>
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- ashbb
- Date:
- 2010-05-27 @ 14:32
Hi Vojtěch,
> And it won't probably work with latest shoes anyway.
Do you have any problem? What platform are you using?
If you find a problem, please let us know. ;-)
ashbb
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- Vojtěch Šalbaba
- Date:
- 2010-05-27 @ 20:01
Meh, i don't really care to start this old app up to test whether it works.
Just reminds me the old times when I had a project to complete and _why went
missing week before deadline, shoes were broken and everybody was trying to
fix it FAST.
I've been keeping eye on shoes mail list ever since, but haven't done any
shoes app in a long time. I might, given we might be doing some multi
platform vnc remote control software where shoes might shine. Although I'm
worried how it will react to very integrated usage, I remember external
dependencies were a pain, shoes not being a true ruby and all that. Thoughts
on that?
Regards
Vojtěch Šalbaba
2010/5/27 ashbb <ashbbb@gmail.com>
> Hi Vojtěch,
>
>
> > And it won't probably work with latest shoes anyway.
> Do you have any problem? What platform are you using?
> If you find a problem, please let us know. ;-)
>
> ashbb
>
>
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- Devyn Cairns
- Date:
- 2010-05-27 @ 22:33
I never had any problems using gems with Shoes on Linux...
I know that on Windows it was problematic, though.
2010/5/27 Vojtěch Šalbaba <darktatka@gmail.com>
> Meh, i don't really care to start this old app up to test whether it works.
> Just reminds me the old times when I had a project to complete and _why went
> missing week before deadline, shoes were broken and everybody was trying to
> fix it FAST.
> I've been keeping eye on shoes mail list ever since, but haven't done any
> shoes app in a long time. I might, given we might be doing some multi
> platform vnc remote control software where shoes might shine. Although I'm
> worried how it will react to very integrated usage, I remember external
> dependencies were a pain, shoes not being a true ruby and all that. Thoughts
> on that?
> Regards
> Vojtěch Šalbaba
>
>
>
> 2010/5/27 ashbb <ashbbb@gmail.com>
>
> Hi Vojtěch,
>>
>>
>> > And it won't probably work with latest shoes anyway.
>> Do you have any problem? What platform are you using?
>> If you find a problem, please let us know. ;-)
>>
>> ashbb
>>
>>
>
--
~devyn
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- ashbb
- Date:
- 2010-05-28 @ 13:21
Yeah, Raisins for Windows couldn't execute samples/simple-rubygems.rb.
But the latest Policeman (0.r1421) can work well!
Look at a tiny note:
http://github.com/ashbb/shoes_hack_note/blob/master/md/hack025.md
ashbb
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- Vojtěch Šalbaba
- Date:
- 2010-05-28 @ 20:23
I think shoes really lost a lot when _why disappeared (I mean reputation.
Don't get offended guys, you do terrific job and I appreciate it). From my
point of view, shoes were getting noticed, promoted and all that stuff, and
then it lost its most appreciated features for half a year. Millions of
programmers screamed in terror and were suddenly silenced as installers
stopped working, the disturbance in the force can be felt even now.
Regards,
Vojtěch Šalbaba
2010/5/28 ashbb <ashbbb@gmail.com>
> Yeah, Raisins for Windows couldn't execute samples/simple-rubygems.rb.
> But the latest Policeman (0.r1421) can work well!
>
> Look at a tiny note:
> http://github.com/ashbb/shoes_hack_note/blob/master/md/hack025.md
>
> ashbb
>
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- Steve Klabnik
- Date:
- 2010-05-28 @ 20:30
None taken. You're exactly right. Everything _why did suffered from this, I
think.
Railsbridge is still interested in promoting shoes, though. And I'll be
going on a huge Hackety promotion after 1.0 this summer.
I think with an actual 3.0 release we can undo the damage.
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- Devyn Cairns
- Date:
- 2010-06-02 @ 16:34
I think we'll do whatever we can, and have fun doing it! After all, that is
the point, isn't it?
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Steve Klabnik <steve@steveklabnik.com>wrote:
> None taken. You're exactly right. Everything _why did suffered from this, I
> think.
>
> Railsbridge is still interested in promoting shoes, though. And I'll be
> going on a huge Hackety promotion after 1.0 this summer.
>
> I think with an actual 3.0 release we can undo the damage.
>
--
~devyn
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- Vojtěch Šalbaba
- Date:
- 2010-06-02 @ 13:11
I have to say, even though I didn't hope for it, my app still works on shoes
1419, and looks fabulous! I am really astonished, I must keep closer eye on
you guys..
regards
Vojtěch Šalbaba
2010/5/28 Steve Klabnik <steve@steveklabnik.com>
> None taken. You're exactly right. Everything _why did suffered from this, I
> think.
>
> Railsbridge is still interested in promoting shoes, though. And I'll be
> going on a huge Hackety promotion after 1.0 this summer.
>
> I think with an actual 3.0 release we can undo the damage.
>
Re: [shoes] Observer pattern in shoes
- From:
- Steve Klabnik
- Date:
- 2010-05-27 @ 05:48
Hackety Hack is fairly large.
2010/5/26 Vojtěch Šalbaba <darktatka@gmail.com>
> My guess is that most shoes app are quick and dirty "proof of concept"
> applications. I haven't seen anything really big, but I would like to be
> proven wrong. In the days of yore I built a relatively medium app which
> tried to do things MVC style (http://the-shoebox.org/apps/167, shameless
> self promotion!), but although it did what it was meant to do (earn me
> school credits) it failed at proper MVC. But it uses some observer pattern
> for history. And it won't probably work with latest shoes anyway. So no
> point me bringing it up, really.
> Regards,
> Vojtěch Šalbaba
>
>
>
> 2010/5/26 Artyom Bolshkov <tweekane@gmail.com>
>
> ashbb,
>>
>> thanks, this helps! I killed last day solving this problem.
>> Actualy i need to do this in separate thread, but at first i desided to
>> make it without threads.
>>
>> And what about MVC in shoes?
>> I have seen lot of examples at the-shoebox.org and
>> shoes-tutorial-note.heroku.com
>> nobody uses mvc.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Artyom
>>
>
>