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From:
Ehsanul Hoque
Date:
2010-01-01 @ 04:43
What's going on with the shoes community? The list used to be so much more active.

Every day or two there would be someone trying to figure out how to do 
something in shoes for example. It was nice to see. Now there's some talk 
of development once in a while, which is great, but I see few posts from 
users/newbies nowadays. Is it that few people are subscribed to the list? 
Are people not finding the list? Is there an official site now or what? Is
there some other reason for the inactivity?

I don't get it. I just hope the shoes community isn't dwindling.

- Ehsan
 		 	   		  
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From:
DeAndrea Monroe
Date:
2012-01-05 @ 22:22
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Re: [shoes]

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Steve Klabnik
Date:
2012-01-05 @ 22:23
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From:
vhuto
Date:
2011-05-24 @ 14:54
could not decode message

Building shoes for 32-bit OSX

From:
vhuto
Date:
2011-05-24 @ 15:38
Hello, Eric. YOU ARE my like-minded person!

My machine is also 32-bit OSX, MacBook:)
Unofficially I keep trying the 32bit Shoes on OSX 10.6 and 10.5 both.
And recently came to build it, but the bad point of my Shoes is that  
it cannot get full Encoding.list.

If you please, download 'my32bitShoes.zip' and check out my results  
here:
   https://public.me.com/vhuto
(Uh, this Shoes works just on OSX 10.6. I'll upload 10.5's one, If you  
want.)

Sorry, because I have not learned C, I cannot tell you technical  
matters...
But compilation of dependencies was not tough way on my environment,  
so I have interst in your environment.

-vhuto

Re: [shoes] Building shoes for 32-bit OSX

From:
Eric Watson
Date:
2011-05-24 @ 18:01
Hi, Vhuto. Glad to see I've got some more company here!

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:38 AM, vhuto <vhuto@me.com> wrote:

> Hello, Eric. YOU ARE my like-minded person!
>
> My machine is also 32-bit OSX, MacBook:)
> Unofficially I keep trying the 32bit Shoes on OSX 10.6 and 10.5 both.
> And recently came to build it, but the bad point of my Shoes is that
> it cannot get full Encoding.list.
>

Thanks for sharing your work. I'll download your Shoes and see if I can
reproduce your results.


> If you please, download 'my32bitShoes.zip' and check out my results
> here:
>   https://public.me.com/vhuto
> (Uh, this Shoes works just on OSX 10.6. I'll upload 10.5's one, If you
> want.)
>
>
I am using 10.6, too, so that shouldn't be a problem.


> Sorry, because I have not learned C, I cannot tell you technical
> matters...
>

I am no C expert either :)


> But compilation of dependencies was not tough way on my environment,
> so I have interst in your environment.
>

Oh, that's interesting. Maybe I need to start over from scratch....

Eric

Re: [shoes]

From:
i5m
Date:
2010-01-07 @ 11:33
Ehsanul,


On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Ehsanul Hoque <ehsanul_g3@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  What's going on with the shoes community? The list used to be so much more
> active.
>

Well there is still a community, although probably a smaller one.



> Every day or two there would be someone trying to figure out how to do
> something in shoes for example. It was nice to see.
>

It could just be that people are finding the answers by searching and that
the most common questions have already been asked. More often than not, I
can find answers to the questions I have by searching the old list:
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.shoes



> Now there's some talk of development once in a while, which is great, but I
> see few posts from users/newbies nowadays. Is it that few people are
> subscribed to the list?
>

There's 148 subscribed to the Google Group. I don't know how many where
subscribed to _why's original list. Or to the librelist mailing list.


> Are people not finding the list?
>

Possible, although both mailing lists are linked on the Github page (
http://wiki.github.com/shoes/shoes). The Google group is also linked on the
new Shoes website (http://shoes.heroku.com/current-progress), albeit not in
an obvious place! Googling for "shoes toolkit" gives the heroku website as
the 2nd result. The wikipedia entry is 1st and this links to the new heroku
website.

Is there an official site now or what?
>

Yep, see http://shoes.heroku.com/

Is there some other reason for the inactivity?
>

Well, I'm pretty sure that with _why gone, a lot of people decided to look
at alternatives such as Limelight and Bowline. Even though Shoes has a
maintainer and is still being developed there are plenty of reasons people
will look elsewhere:
* they might feel it is not being developed quickly enough
* they might feel it has a chance of being abandoned
* they might just have had an interest in _why's work and now it's not being
done by him they are no longer interested.

Personally, I would like to think the reason for inactivity is because
everyone is busy trying to develop Shoes!


>
> I don't get it. I just hope the shoes community isn't dwindling.
>

Well, it probably has a little, but there is still a lot of interest. 135
forks of the shoes/shoes repo on Github. People still filing issues, people
still asking questions on stackoverflow.


Kind regards,

i5m

>


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Re: [shoes]

From:
Steve Klabnik
Date:
2010-01-01 @ 09:18
I've been building Hackety Hack, so that's not related to shoooes itself,
but using it, for sure.

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Ehsanul Hoque <ehsanul_g3@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  What's going on with the shoes community? The list used to be so much more
> active.
>
> Every day or two there would be someone trying to figure out how to do
> something in shoes for example. It was nice to see. Now there's some talk of
> development once in a while, which is great, but I see few posts from
> users/newbies nowadays. Is it that few people are subscribed to the list?
> Are people not finding the list? Is there an official site now or what? Is
> there some other reason for the inactivity?
>
> I don't get it. I just hope the shoes community isn't dwindling.
>
> - Ehsan
>
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