Hello Hamed, I am cc'ing the list, hopefully you finished the registration process and will be able to get the reply from other people too. Right now GeoNode uses the ISO 19115:2003 standard internally, and is able to update the metadata records in the CSW server (right now GeoNetwork) based on the user profile information (for contact information). It also populates automatically the bounding box record using Geoserver to calculate it. The Demo server is hosted and maintained by the kind folks at OpenGeo they read this mailing list and my be able to set you up with an account so you can try it for yourself. Best, Ariel On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Hamed Olfat <h.olfat@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote: > Dear Ariel, > > I sent the following email yesterday to the geonode@librelist.com to get > some help, but instead I was added to the mailing list. I'm happy to be part > of this list, however I'm more interested to get my response first: > > > My name is Hamed and I'm studying PhD on Spatial Metadata Automation at the > University of Melbourne. > > I'm very interested to know more about the GeoNode and how it handles > metadata, but unfortunately I couldn't find any detailed reference on the > internet. According to the GeoNode homepage, it should be able to automate > the metadata creation. I would like to know how many and which ISO metadata > elements could be created automatically. Also, how the metadata records > could be linked from GeoNetwork to data in the GeoServer. > I'm also keen to know if this tool can update metadata automatically > whenever the dataset is modified by the user. > > I registered myself for the GeoNode online demo, but apparently there is a > problem in the system that I am neither able to create my profile nor able > to upload data to understand the process of data and metadata publishing. > > It would be appreciated if you could kindly provide me with some links to > the references to get my responses. > > Cheers, > Hamed > > -- > > Hamed Olfat > > PhD Candidate > > Centre for SDIs and Land Administration > > Department of Infrastructure Engineering > > The University of Melbourne > > Victoria 3010, Australia > > Tel: +61- 3 8344 6771 > > Email: h.olfat@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au > > Website: http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/people/rteam/hamed.html > > > >
Hamed, I kindly suggest you to keep geonode@librelist.com as the recipient of this messages. Any email sent there will come straight to my inbox and also to the inbox of people who may know more than me about the topic. Answering your question, GeoNode keeps populates the right metadata field in GeoServer (to link to geonetwork) and in geonetwork (to link to the WMS services), apart from that, it keeps another copy in the Django database that it uses to populate the info in GeoNetwork. It is possible to update a new data layer and keep the metadata intact. My suggestion, since this is your area of research is to install geonode locally and start playing with it :) Best of luck with your project, Ariel. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Hamed Olfat <h.olfat@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote: > Dear Ariel, > > Unfortunately, I haven't heard anything from GeoNode list regarding my > questions. > I was not either able to proceed the shapefile upload using the online demo. > > Would you please answer the following questions for me, it would be great > help to understand the existing process in the GeoNode to handle metadata. > > If I publish a shapefile into the GeoServer, and I publish its metadata into > the GeoNetwork, how GeoNode links these two together? Is it done through > only a simple link using the metadata identifier? and how can a user access > the metadata? is it through the dataset itself? > > Since the GeoNode couples data and metadata, it is possible to update > metadata at the same time with dataset modification automatically? > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > Hamed > > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ariel Nunez <ingenieroariel@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Hello Hamed, >> >> I am cc'ing the list, hopefully you finished the registration process >> and will be able to get the reply from other people too. >> >> Right now GeoNode uses the ISO 19115:2003 standard internally, and is >> able to update the metadata records in the CSW server (right now >> GeoNetwork) based on the user profile information (for contact >> information). >> >> It also populates automatically the bounding box record using >> Geoserver to calculate it. >> >> The Demo server is hosted and maintained by the kind folks at OpenGeo >> they read this mailing list and my be able to set you up with an >> account so you can try it for yourself. >> >> Best, >> Ariel >> >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Hamed Olfat >> <h.olfat@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote: >> > Dear Ariel, >> > >> > I sent the following email yesterday to the geonode@librelist.com to >> > get >> > some help, but instead I was added to the mailing list. I'm happy to be >> > part >> > of this list, however I'm more interested to get my response first: >> > >> > >> > My name is Hamed and I'm studying PhD on Spatial Metadata Automation at >> > the >> > University of Melbourne. >> > >> > I'm very interested to know more about the GeoNode and how it handles >> > metadata, but unfortunately I couldn't find any detailed reference on >> > the >> > internet. According to the GeoNode homepage, it should be able to >> > automate >> > the metadata creation. I would like to know how many and which ISO >> > metadata >> > elements could be created automatically. Also, how the metadata records >> > could be linked from GeoNetwork to data in the GeoServer. >> > I'm also keen to know if this tool can update metadata automatically >> > whenever the dataset is modified by the user. >> > >> > I registered myself for the GeoNode online demo, but apparently there is >> > a >> > problem in the system that I am neither able to create my profile nor >> > able >> > to upload data to understand the process of data and metadata >> > publishing. >> > >> > It would be appreciated if you could kindly provide me with some links >> > to >> > the references to get my responses. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Hamed >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Hamed Olfat >> > >> > PhD Candidate >> > >> > Centre for SDIs and Land Administration >> > >> > Department of Infrastructure Engineering >> > >> > The University of Melbourne >> > >> > Victoria 3010, Australia >> > >> > Tel: +61- 3 8344 6771 >> > >> > Email: h.olfat@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au >> > >> > Website: http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/people/rteam/hamed.html >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Hamed Olfat > > PhD Candidate > > Centre for SDIs and Land Administration > > Department of Infrastructure Engineering > > The University of Melbourne > > Victoria 3010, Australia > > Tel: +61- 3 8344 6771 > > Email: h.olfat@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au > > Website: http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/people/rteam/hamed.html > > > >
Apparently Hamed is not the only person having trouble with the geonode@librelist.com address. Oh well. Pasted below from Tom Kralidis who is currently working on metadata improvements in GeoNode. -------- Hi: to add to Ariel's responses, yes, GeoNode links across GeoServer/GeoNetwork/Django. The initial metadata model is based on a subset of ISO 19115:2003 (see associated underlying ISO template [1]), which is driven from the metadata form for a given layer. Note that there is development to abstract CSW functionality, as well as support XML upload of ISO/FGDC/DC metadata [2]. As well, there is development to further augment GeoNode's resource metadata model to provide a more exhaustive subset of ISO metadata elements, in the spirit of GeoNode's Django DB housing resource metadata and the CSW connecting to the GeoNode DB, instead of the other way around. ..Tom [1] https://github.com/tomkralidis/geonode/blob/master/src/GeoNodePy/geonode/templates/maps/csw/full_metadata.xml [2] https://github.com/tomkralidis/geonode/tree/md_csw On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Ariel Nunez <ingenieroariel@gmail.com>wrote: > Hamed, > > I kindly suggest you to keep geonode@librelist.com as the recipient of > this messages. Any email sent there will come straight to my inbox and > also to the inbox of people who may know more than me about the topic. > > Answering your question, GeoNode keeps populates the right metadata > field in GeoServer (to link to geonetwork) and in geonetwork (to link > to the WMS services), apart from that, it keeps another copy in the > Django database that it uses to populate the info in GeoNetwork. > > It is possible to update a new data layer and keep the metadata > intact. My suggestion, since this is your area of research is to > install geonode locally and start playing with it :) > > Best of luck with your project, > Ariel. > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Hamed Olfat > <h.olfat@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote: > > Dear Ariel, > > > > Unfortunately, I haven't heard anything from GeoNode list regarding my > > questions. > > I was not either able to proceed the shapefile upload using the online > demo. > > > > Would you please answer the following questions for me, it would be great > > help to understand the existing process in the GeoNode to handle > metadata. > > > > If I publish a shapefile into the GeoServer, and I publish its metadata > into > > the GeoNetwork, how GeoNode links these two together? Is it done through > > only a simple link using the metadata identifier? and how can a user > access > > the metadata? is it through the dataset itself? > > > > Since the GeoNode couples data and metadata, it is possible to update > > metadata at the same time with dataset modification automatically? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Cheers, > > Hamed > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ariel Nunez <ingenieroariel@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hello Hamed, > >> > >> I am cc'ing the list, hopefully you finished the registration process > >> and will be able to get the reply from other people too. > >> > >> Right now GeoNode uses the ISO 19115:2003 standard internally, and is > >> able to update the metadata records in the CSW server (right now > >> GeoNetwork) based on the user profile information (for contact > >> information). > >> > >> It also populates automatically the bounding box record using > >> Geoserver to calculate it. > >> > >> The Demo server is hosted and maintained by the kind folks at OpenGeo > >> they read this mailing list and my be able to set you up with an > >> account so you can try it for yourself. > >> > >> Best, > >> Ariel > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Hamed Olfat > >> <h.olfat@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote: > >> > Dear Ariel, > >> > > >> > I sent the following email yesterday to the geonode@librelist.com to > >> > get > >> > some help, but instead I was added to the mailing list. I'm happy to > be > >> > part > >> > of this list, however I'm more interested to get my response first: > >> > > >> > > >> > My name is Hamed and I'm studying PhD on Spatial Metadata Automation > at > >> > the > >> > University of Melbourne. > >> > > >> > I'm very interested to know more about the GeoNode and how it handles > >> > metadata, but unfortunately I couldn't find any detailed reference on > >> > the > >> > internet. According to the GeoNode homepage, it should be able to > >> > automate > >> > the metadata creation. I would like to know how many and which ISO > >> > metadata > >> > elements could be created automatically. Also, how the metadata > records > >> > could be linked from GeoNetwork to data in the GeoServer. > >> > I'm also keen to know if this tool can update metadata automatically > >> > whenever the dataset is modified by the user. > >> > > >> > I registered myself for the GeoNode online demo, but apparently there > is > >> > a > >> > problem in the system that I am neither able to create my profile nor > >> > able > >> > to upload data to understand the process of data and metadata > >> > publishing. > >> > > >> > It would be appreciated if you could kindly provide me with some links > >> > to > >> > the references to get my responses. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > Hamed > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Hamed Olfat > >> > > >> > PhD Candidate > >> > > >> > Centre for SDIs and Land Administration > >> > > >> > Department of Infrastructure Engineering > >> > > >> > The University of Melbourne > >> > > >> > Victoria 3010, Australia > >> > > >> > Tel: +61- 3 8344 6771 > >> > > >> > Email: h.olfat@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au > >> > > >> > Website: http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/people/rteam/hamed.html > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Hamed Olfat > > > > PhD Candidate > > > > Centre for SDIs and Land Administration > > > > Department of Infrastructure Engineering > > > > The University of Melbourne > > > > Victoria 3010, Australia > > > > Tel: +61- 3 8344 6771 > > > > Email: h.olfat@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au > > > > Website: http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/people/rteam/hamed.html > > > > > > > > >
Dear Jeffrey and Tom thanks so much for sharing this information. Also, thanks to Ariel for sending my email around. Cheers, Hamed On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Jeffrey Johnson <jjohnson@opengeo.org>wrote: > Apparently Hamed is not the only person having trouble with the > geonode@librelist.com address. Oh well. > > Pasted below from Tom Kralidis who is currently working on metadata > improvements in GeoNode. > > -------- > > Hi: to add to Ariel's responses, yes, GeoNode links across > GeoServer/GeoNetwork/Django. > > The initial metadata model is based on a subset of ISO 19115:2003 (see > associated underlying ISO template [1]), which is driven from the metadata > form for a given layer. > > Note that there is development to abstract CSW functionality, as well as > support XML upload of ISO/FGDC/DC metadata [2]. As well, there is > development to further augment GeoNode's resource metadata model to provide > a more exhaustive subset of ISO metadata elements, in the spirit of > GeoNode's Django DB housing resource metadata and the CSW connecting to the > GeoNode DB, instead of the other way around. > > ..Tom > > [1] > https://github.com/tomkralidis/geonode/blob/master/src/GeoNodePy/geonode/templates/maps/csw/full_metadata.xml > [2] https://github.com/tomkralidis/geonode/tree/md_csw > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Ariel Nunez <ingenieroariel@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hamed, >> >> I kindly suggest you to keep geonode@librelist.com as the recipient of >> this messages. Any email sent there will come straight to my inbox and >> also to the inbox of people who may know more than me about the topic. >> >> Answering your question, GeoNode keeps populates the right metadata >> field in GeoServer (to link to geonetwork) and in geonetwork (to link >> to the WMS services), apart from that, it keeps another copy in the >> Django database that it uses to populate the info in GeoNetwork. >> >> It is possible to update a new data layer and keep the metadata >> intact. My suggestion, since this is your area of research is to >> install geonode locally and start playing with it :) >> >> Best of luck with your project, >> Ariel. >> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Hamed Olfat >> <h.olfat@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote: >> > Dear Ariel, >> > >> > Unfortunately, I haven't heard anything from GeoNode list regarding my >> > questions. >> > I was not either able to proceed the shapefile upload using the online >> demo. >> > >> > Would you please answer the following questions for me, it would be >> great >> > help to understand the existing process in the GeoNode to handle >> metadata. >> > >> > If I publish a shapefile into the GeoServer, and I publish its metadata >> into >> > the GeoNetwork, how GeoNode links these two together? Is it done through >> > only a simple link using the metadata identifier? and how can a user >> access >> > the metadata? is it through the dataset itself? >> > >> > Since the GeoNode couples data and metadata, it is possible to update >> > metadata at the same time with dataset modification automatically? >> > >> > Thanks in advance. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Hamed >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ariel Nunez <ingenieroariel@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello Hamed, >> >> >> >> I am cc'ing the list, hopefully you finished the registration process >> >> and will be able to get the reply from other people too. >> >> >> >> Right now GeoNode uses the ISO 19115:2003 standard internally, and is >> >> able to update the metadata records in the CSW server (right now >> >> GeoNetwork) based on the user profile information (for contact >> >> information). >> >> >> >> It also populates automatically the bounding box record using >> >> Geoserver to calculate it. >> >> >> >> The Demo server is hosted and maintained by the kind folks at OpenGeo >> >> they read this mailing list and my be able to set you up with an >> >> account so you can try it for yourself. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Ariel >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Hamed Olfat >> >> <h.olfat@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote: >> >> > Dear Ariel, >> >> > >> >> > I sent the following email yesterday to the geonode@librelist.com >> to >> >> > get >> >> > some help, but instead I was added to the mailing list. I'm happy to >> be >> >> > part >> >> > of this list, however I'm more interested to get my response first: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > My name is Hamed and I'm studying PhD on Spatial Metadata Automation >> at >> >> > the >> >> > University of Melbourne. >> >> > >> >> > I'm very interested to know more about the GeoNode and how it handles >> >> > metadata, but unfortunately I couldn't find any detailed reference on >> >> > the >> >> > internet. According to the GeoNode homepage, it should be able to >> >> > automate >> >> > the metadata creation. I would like to know how many and which ISO >> >> > metadata >> >> > elements could be created automatically. Also, how the metadata >> records >> >> > could be linked from GeoNetwork to data in the GeoServer. >> >> > I'm also keen to know if this tool can update metadata automatically >> >> > whenever the dataset is modified by the user. >> >> > >> >> > I registered myself for the GeoNode online demo, but apparently >> there is >> >> > a >> >> > problem in the system that I am neither able to create my profile nor >> >> > able >> >> > to upload data to understand the process of data and metadata >> >> > publishing. >> >> > >> >> > It would be appreciated if you could kindly provide me with some >> links >> >> > to >> >> > the references to get my responses. >> >> > >> >> > Cheers, >> >> > Hamed >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > >> >> > Hamed Olfat >> >> > >> >> > PhD Candidate >> >> > >> >> > Centre for SDIs and Land Administration >> >> > >> >> > Department of Infrastructure Engineering >> >> > >> >> > The University of Melbourne >> >> > >> >> > Victoria 3010, Australia >> >> > >> >> > Tel: +61- 3 8344 6771 >> >> > >> >> > Email: h.olfat@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au >> >> > >> >> > Website: http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/people/rteam/hamed.html >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Hamed Olfat >> > >> > PhD Candidate >> > >> > Centre for SDIs and Land Administration >> > >> > Department of Infrastructure Engineering >> > >> > The University of Melbourne >> > >> > Victoria 3010, Australia >> > >> > Tel: +61- 3 8344 6771 >> > >> > Email: h.olfat@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au >> > >> > Website: http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/people/rteam/hamed.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- *Hamed Olfat* PhD Candidate Centre for SDIs and Land Administration Department of Infrastructure Engineering The University of Melbourne Victoria 3010, Australia Email: h.olfat@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au Website: http://www.csdila.unimelb.edu.au/people/rteam/hamed.html