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Commenting on Submissions

From:
Dylan Clendenin
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 16:05
Hey all, after a hiatus from participation on fretwar I listened in again on
this round and have to share something that profoundly disturbs me.

So, this may apply more to Zed or whoever is shaping the UX...

Is anybody else driven completely nuts by the way the text input field is
one line?
When making a comment it is completely impossible to view the context of
what you are saying if you span more than one line. Critiquing a submission
properly is not really possible in this design.

How about a textarea? I don't have absolute measurements, but from glancing
at a few submissions and their comments, comments tend to be an average of 3
lines per.

I noticed that when replying to a comment there is a textarea provided. So
you can make an initial comment with a one-line visual scope and sound like
a dumbass but replies can be more cogent and intelligent.

-- 
Dylan Clendenin
831.331.1484

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Zed A. Shaw
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 17:45
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:05:17AM -0800, Dylan Clendenin wrote:
> Hey all, after a hiatus from participation on fretwar I listened in again on
> this round and have to share something that profoundly disturbs me.

Cool, looks like it's working.

Also Dylan, since you been gone I wrote a decent little forum system:

http://fretwar.com/forum

Switch over to there instead of this list so that I can start getting
feedback on it and have a more public record of this stuff.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw
http://zedshaw.com/

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Chad Woolley
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 17:47
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw@zedshaw.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:05:17AM -0800, Dylan Clendenin wrote:
>> Hey all, after a hiatus from participation on fretwar I listened in again on
>> this round and have to share something that profoundly disturbs me.
>
> Cool, looks like it's working.
>
> Also Dylan, since you been gone I wrote a decent little forum system:
>
> http://fretwar.com/forum
>
> Switch over to there instead of this list so that I can start getting
> feedback on it and have a more public record of this stuff.

Can I get emails for all forum posts?  If not, it is not as good as
this list to me...

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Zed A. Shaw
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 17:50
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:47:42AM -0700, Chad Woolley wrote:
> Can I get emails for all forum posts?  If not, it is not as good as
> this list to me...

You mean, replies to everyone in the thread?   Yeah, working on it.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw
http://zedshaw.com/

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Chad Woolley
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 18:06
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw@zedshaw.com> wrote:
> You mean, replies to everyone in the thread?   Yeah, working on it.

No, I mean notification of all new posts.  I want to read everything
that is going on, but I'm not going to dig through the web UI to find
new stuff.

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Zed A. Shaw
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 18:18
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:06:07AM -0700, Chad Woolley wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw@zedshaw.com> wrote:
> > You mean, replies to everyone in the thread?   Yeah, working on it.
> 
> No, I mean notification of all new posts.  I want to read everything
> that is going on, but I'm not going to dig through the web UI to find
> new stuff.

Oh, I thought it does that.  Yeah I'm pretty sure I cranked out
notifications for all new forum posts, comments to those, etc.

Or, wait do you mean include the text of the post in the email?

-- 
Zed A. Shaw
http://zedshaw.com/

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Chad Woolley
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 18:22
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw@zedshaw.com> wrote:
> Oh, I thought it does that.  Yeah I'm pretty sure I cranked out
> notifications for all new forum posts, comments to those, etc.

OK, that's good then...

> Or, wait do you mean include the text of the post in the email?

That would be nice, but as long as there is notification that's fine for now.

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Zed A. Shaw
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 18:35
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:22:10AM -0700, Chad Woolley wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Zed A. Shaw <zedshaw@zedshaw.com> wrote:
> > Oh, I thought it does that.  Yeah I'm pretty sure I cranked out
> > notifications for all new forum posts, comments to those, etc.
> 
> OK, that's good then...
> 
> > Or, wait do you mean include the text of the post in the email?
> 
> That would be nice, but as long as there is notification that's fine for now.

Yep, but I'll work on differentiating them a bit.  For submissions the
notification email is good, but for forum it should be more like the
comments.

Thanks.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw
http://zedshaw.com/

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Zed A. Shaw
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 17:40
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:05:17AM -0800, Dylan Clendenin wrote:
> How about a textarea? I don't have absolute measurements, but from glancing
> at a few submissions and their comments, comments tend to be an average of 3
> lines per.

Done.  Testing it out now.

-- 
Zed A. Shaw
http://zedshaw.com/

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Hank Marquardt
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 16:23
I wouldn't say it drives me completely nuts ... but your point is valid.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Dylan Clendenin
<dylan.clendenin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all, after a hiatus from participation on fretwar I listened in again on
> this round and have to share something that profoundly disturbs me.
> So, this may apply more to Zed or whoever is shaping the UX...
> Is anybody else driven completely nuts by the way the text input field is
> one line?
> When making a comment it is completely impossible to view the context of
> what you are saying if you span more than one line. Critiquing a submission
> properly is not really possible in this design.
> How about a textarea? I don't have absolute measurements, but from glancing
> at a few submissions and their comments, comments tend to be an average of 3
> lines per.
> I noticed that when replying to a comment there is a textarea provided. So
> you can make an initial comment with a one-line visual scope and sound like
> a dumbass but replies can be more cogent and intelligent.
> --
> Dylan Clendenin
> 831.331.1484
>

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Dylan Clendenin
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 16:32
So, I can I get a +1 for textarea then?

The way I see it:

input type=text lends itself to shooting from the hip stream of
consciousness rambling, textarea lends itself to thoughtful, composed
critiques.


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Hank Marquardt <hmarquardt@gmail.com>wrote:

> I wouldn't say it drives me completely nuts ... but your point is valid.
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Dylan Clendenin
> <dylan.clendenin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey all, after a hiatus from participation on fretwar I listened in again
> on
> > this round and have to share something that profoundly disturbs me.
> > So, this may apply more to Zed or whoever is shaping the UX...
> > Is anybody else driven completely nuts by the way the text input field is
> > one line?
> > When making a comment it is completely impossible to view the context of
> > what you are saying if you span more than one line. Critiquing a
> submission
> > properly is not really possible in this design.
> > How about a textarea? I don't have absolute measurements, but from
> glancing
> > at a few submissions and their comments, comments tend to be an average
> of 3
> > lines per.
> > I noticed that when replying to a comment there is a textarea provided.
> So
> > you can make an initial comment with a one-line visual scope and sound
> like
> > a dumbass but replies can be more cogent and intelligent.
> > --
> > Dylan Clendenin
> > 831.331.1484
> >
>



-- 
Dylan Clendenin
831.331.1484

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Hank Marquardt
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 16:33
Sure. +1

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Dylan Clendenin
<dylan.clendenin@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, I can I get a +1 for textarea then?
> The way I see it:
> input type=text lends itself to shooting from the hip stream of
> consciousness rambling, textarea lends itself to thoughtful, composed
> critiques.
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Hank Marquardt <hmarquardt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't say it drives me completely nuts ... but your point is valid.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Dylan Clendenin
>> <dylan.clendenin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey all, after a hiatus from participation on fretwar I listened in
>> > again on
>> > this round and have to share something that profoundly disturbs me.
>> > So, this may apply more to Zed or whoever is shaping the UX...
>> > Is anybody else driven completely nuts by the way the text input field
>> > is
>> > one line?
>> > When making a comment it is completely impossible to view the context of
>> > what you are saying if you span more than one line. Critiquing a
>> > submission
>> > properly is not really possible in this design.
>> > How about a textarea? I don't have absolute measurements, but from
>> > glancing
>> > at a few submissions and their comments, comments tend to be an average
>> > of 3
>> > lines per.
>> > I noticed that when replying to a comment there is a textarea provided.
>> > So
>> > you can make an initial comment with a one-line visual scope and sound
>> > like
>> > a dumbass but replies can be more cogent and intelligent.
>> > --
>> > Dylan Clendenin
>> > 831.331.1484
>> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dylan Clendenin
> 831.331.1484
>

Re: [fretwar] Commenting on Submissions

From:
Chad Woolley
Date:
2010-01-12 @ 16:56
+1.  I've mentioned this to Zed before too...

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Hank Marquardt <hmarquardt@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure. +1
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Dylan Clendenin
> <dylan.clendenin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, I can I get a +1 for textarea then?
>> The way I see it:
>> input type=text lends itself to shooting from the hip stream of
>> consciousness rambling, textarea lends itself to thoughtful, composed
>> critiques.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Hank Marquardt <hmarquardt@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wouldn't say it drives me completely nuts ... but your point is valid.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Dylan Clendenin
>>> <dylan.clendenin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hey all, after a hiatus from participation on fretwar I listened in
>>> > again on
>>> > this round and have to share something that profoundly disturbs me.
>>> > So, this may apply more to Zed or whoever is shaping the UX...
>>> > Is anybody else driven completely nuts by the way the text input field
>>> > is
>>> > one line?
>>> > When making a comment it is completely impossible to view the context of
>>> > what you are saying if you span more than one line. Critiquing a
>>> > submission
>>> > properly is not really possible in this design.
>>> > How about a textarea? I don't have absolute measurements, but from
>>> > glancing
>>> > at a few submissions and their comments, comments tend to be an average
>>> > of 3
>>> > lines per.
>>> > I noticed that when replying to a comment there is a textarea provided.
>>> > So
>>> > you can make an initial comment with a one-line visual scope and sound
>>> > like
>>> > a dumbass but replies can be more cogent and intelligent.
>>> > --
>>> > Dylan Clendenin
>>> > 831.331.1484
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dylan Clendenin
>> 831.331.1484
>>
>