Hi all, Thanks to TJ for initiating this project! I thought I'd send a brief introduction... My name is Mike Cantelon and I'm a PHP web applications developer with 15 years or so of experience. I'd like to move away from PHP at some point and have done personal projects in Ruby, Python, and Javascript. I've been playing with node.js and am currently working on a JS framework I can use to make Flash-like things in canvas. I consider my JS-fu and overall programming prowess to be intermediate. My day job is Drupal dev for Straight.com and, while I like the overall architecture of Drupal, PHP's limitations annoy me and I'm interested in helping create a more programmer-friendly CMS by contributing programming, documentation, or infrastructure. Cheers, Mike
Hey. I started web development with the WYSIWYG editor component of Netscape 3.0 Gold back in 96 or 97. Quickly became frustrated with the lack of control, downloaded HotDog 2.0, started reverse-engineering the HTML, and got hooked. I do mostly PHP on the server-side these days but also work on a couple Rails projects, and I've written a couple applications with the Helma ssjs framework. I consider my JS-fu strong, but (like my linux-fu) it's limited to things I've needed to do for some reason, so there are large gaps. I've been playing with node.js writing command-line utility scripts. Like many long-time PHP programmers, I've written my own web framework a time or three. (All solved some problems but were poor on balance.) On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 11:46 -0500, Mike Cantelon wrote: > am currently working on a JS framework I can use to make Flash-like > things in canvas. This is Relevant To My Interests. I finally used canvas in anger for the first time yesterday (see what I mean about gaps?), but along these lines, I've just been porting some flash website templates to HTML/CSS/JS and wrote a small wrapper on jQuery's animation functions so a series of DOM animations can be composed on a timeline instead of lost in a callback jumble. I'll post it somewhere Any Day Now. > I like the overall architecture of Drupal I have never got into Drupal. Any quick start for getting into the overall architecture? -- Joshua Paine LetterBlock: Web applications built with joy http://letterblock.com/ 301-576-1920
> This is Relevant To My Interests. I finally used canvas in anger for the > first time yesterday (see what I mean about gaps?), but along these > lines, I've just been porting some flash website templates to > HTML/CSS/JS and wrote a small wrapper on jQuery's animation functions so > a series of DOM animations can be composed on a timeline instead of lost > in a callback jumble. > Nice... I'm pretty new to canvas as well (and ran into the same timeline challenge: seems simple at first and then the beard scratching starts). Shoot me your code when it's ready (and I'll do likewise: mine's still a bit rough)! Mike
The main "feature" of Drupal, is that it is extremely modular and extensible, and "easy" for an end use that knows little or no programming to get going and modify, which is why it is so popular outside of the developer community. That being said I know we can make a better UI than Drupal, hell I already have On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Joshua Paine <joshua@letterblock.com> wrote: > Hey. I started web development with the WYSIWYG editor component of > Netscape 3.0 Gold back in 96 or 97. Quickly became frustrated with the > lack of control, downloaded HotDog 2.0, started reverse-engineering the > HTML, and got hooked. > > I do mostly PHP on the server-side these days but also work on a couple > Rails projects, and I've written a couple applications with the Helma > ssjs framework. > > I consider my JS-fu strong, but (like my linux-fu) it's limited to > things I've needed to do for some reason, so there are large gaps. I've > been playing with node.js writing command-line utility scripts. Like > many long-time PHP programmers, I've written my own web framework a time > or three. (All solved some problems but were poor on balance.) > > On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 11:46 -0500, Mike Cantelon wrote: > > am currently working on a JS framework I can use to make Flash-like > > things in canvas. > > This is Relevant To My Interests. I finally used canvas in anger for the > first time yesterday (see what I mean about gaps?), but along these > lines, I've just been porting some flash website templates to > HTML/CSS/JS and wrote a small wrapper on jQuery's animation functions so > a series of DOM animations can be composed on a timeline instead of lost > in a callback jumble. > > I'll post it somewhere Any Day Now. > > > I like the overall architecture of Drupal > > I have never got into Drupal. Any quick start for getting into the > overall architecture? > > -- > Joshua Paine > LetterBlock: Web applications built with joy > http://letterblock.com/ > 301-576-1920 > > -- Tj Holowaychuk Vision Media President & Creative Lead
Sounds good! thanks for the interest in the idea, I would love to get this going. For those who dont know me my name is TJ Holowaychuk, I have been designing / developing for about about 13 years, I am proficient in Ruby, PHP, JavaScript, C, C++, among others and of course CSS and all that crap. I own my own company http://vision-media.ca here in Victoria, BC where I had been using Drupal for about 3 years, worked on core etc, however as you mentioned PHP poses many limitations and annoyances that I wanted to get away from so I mastered Ruby and started going the rails-route. However then I missed the CMS aspect of modular development, and I hate the cruft that goes along with Rails plugins. After all why "assemble" a framework when you can have a CMS just sitting there waiting to go. Node.js has a lot of promise, and a lot of hype right now so I think we could have a really great project going here. I would propose using Express as the framework, since it is the most complete node.js web-dev framework available at the moment http://github.com/visionmedia/express On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Mike Cantelon <mcantelon@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks to TJ for initiating this project! > > I thought I'd send a brief introduction... My name is Mike Cantelon and I'm > a PHP web applications developer with 15 years or so of experience. I'd like > to move away from PHP at some point and have done personal projects in Ruby, > Python, and Javascript. I've been playing with node.js and am currently > working on a JS framework I can use to make Flash-like things in canvas. I > consider my JS-fu and overall programming prowess to be intermediate. > > My day job is Drupal dev for Straight.com and, while I like the overall > architecture of Drupal, PHP's limitations annoy me and I'm interested in > helping create a more programmer-friendly CMS by contributing programming, > documentation, or infrastructure. > > Cheers, > Mike > > -- Tj Holowaychuk Vision Media President & Creative Lead
> > I would propose using Express as the framework, since it is the most > complete > node.js web-dev framework available at the moment > http://github.com/visionmedia/express > Sounds good to me... Was poking at this a few days ago. Mike
Started the repo http://github.com/visionmedia/evolution On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:57 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] < tj@vision-media.ca> wrote: > Sounds good! thanks for the interest in the idea, I would > love to get this going. > > For those who dont know me my name is TJ Holowaychuk, I have been > designing / developing > for about about 13 years, I am proficient in Ruby, PHP, JavaScript, C, > C++, > among others and of course CSS and all that crap. I own my own company > http://vision-media.ca here in Victoria, BC where I had been using Drupal > for > about 3 years, worked on core etc, however as you mentioned PHP poses many > limitations and annoyances that I wanted to get away from so I mastered > Ruby > and started going the rails-route. However then I missed the CMS aspect > of modular development, and I hate the cruft that goes along with Rails > plugins. > > After all why "assemble" a framework when you can have a CMS just sitting > there > waiting to go. Node.js has a lot of promise, and a lot of hype right now so > I think > we could have a really great project going here. > > I would propose using Express as the framework, since it is the most > complete > node.js web-dev framework available at the moment > http://github.com/visionmedia/express > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Mike Cantelon <mcantelon@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks to TJ for initiating this project! >> >> I thought I'd send a brief introduction... My name is Mike Cantelon and >> I'm a PHP web applications developer with 15 years or so of experience. I'd >> like to move away from PHP at some point and have done personal projects in >> Ruby, Python, and Javascript. I've been playing with node.js and am >> currently working on a JS framework I can use to make Flash-like things in >> canvas. I consider my JS-fu and overall programming prowess to be >> intermediate. >> >> My day job is Drupal dev for Straight.com and, while I like the overall >> architecture of Drupal, PHP's limitations annoy me and I'm interested in >> helping create a more programmer-friendly CMS by contributing programming, >> documentation, or infrastructure. >> >> Cheers, >> Mike >> >> > > > -- > Tj Holowaychuk > Vision Media > President & Creative Lead > -- Tj Holowaychuk Vision Media President & Creative Lead
Screenshot of my Ruby CMS UI http://i.imgur.com/GFSaj.png On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:09 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] < tj@vision-media.ca> wrote: > Started the repo http://github.com/visionmedia/evolution > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:57 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] < > tj@vision-media.ca> wrote: > >> Sounds good! thanks for the interest in the idea, I would >> love to get this going. >> >> For those who dont know me my name is TJ Holowaychuk, I have been >> designing / developing >> for about about 13 years, I am proficient in Ruby, PHP, JavaScript, C, >> C++, >> among others and of course CSS and all that crap. I own my own company >> http://vision-media.ca here in Victoria, BC where I had been using Drupal >> for >> about 3 years, worked on core etc, however as you mentioned PHP poses many >> limitations and annoyances that I wanted to get away from so I mastered >> Ruby >> and started going the rails-route. However then I missed the CMS aspect >> of modular development, and I hate the cruft that goes along with Rails >> plugins. >> >> After all why "assemble" a framework when you can have a CMS just sitting >> there >> waiting to go. Node.js has a lot of promise, and a lot of hype right now >> so I think >> we could have a really great project going here. >> >> I would propose using Express as the framework, since it is the most >> complete >> node.js web-dev framework available at the moment >> http://github.com/visionmedia/express >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Mike Cantelon <mcantelon@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Thanks to TJ for initiating this project! >>> >>> I thought I'd send a brief introduction... My name is Mike Cantelon and >>> I'm a PHP web applications developer with 15 years or so of experience. I'd >>> like to move away from PHP at some point and have done personal projects in >>> Ruby, Python, and Javascript. I've been playing with node.js and am >>> currently working on a JS framework I can use to make Flash-like things in >>> canvas. I consider my JS-fu and overall programming prowess to be >>> intermediate. >>> >>> My day job is Drupal dev for Straight.com and, while I like the overall >>> architecture of Drupal, PHP's limitations annoy me and I'm interested in >>> helping create a more programmer-friendly CMS by contributing programming, >>> documentation, or infrastructure. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Mike >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tj Holowaychuk >> Vision Media >> President & Creative Lead >> > > > > -- > Tj Holowaychuk > Vision Media > President & Creative Lead > -- Tj Holowaychuk Vision Media President & Creative Lead