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Re: [evolutionjs] LESS CSS

From:

vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ]

Date:

2010-02-11 @ 22:46

how do you guys feel about the structure? I think
we should probably go with no decentralized "plugins".

Even though having plugins for blogs, forums etc in seperate
distributed packages like RubyGems is great, it prevents us
from using servers like nginx to serve static files since they
could reside anywhere on the system. I am really not into
the whole rails "generator" style of plugins either, despise it actually

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Todd Geist <emptyofwhat@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am just trying to get a sense of what people like...  Seeing if there are
> any general trends.
>
> Honestly I couldn't code my way out of a wet paper bag with JavaScript.
> [?]  So I am not going to bother you all with the details of the framework.
>  I can whip a drupal install into shape, and I can handle php and
> ActionScript and a little groovy, but this is going to be my first serious
> foray into JavaScript. I am ready though [?]
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:37 PM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] <
> tj@vision-media.ca> wrote:
>
>> Sass http://github.com/visionmedia/sass.js
>> I am not a huge fan of LESS, love Sass though
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Todd Geist <emptyofwhat@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> What do you think of LESS css?
>>>
>>> http://lesscss.org/
>>>
>>> I think some sort of CSS abstraction would be great. The rails guys seem
>>> to be kicking out one of these kinds of things every 5 minutes  ;>)
>>>
>>> todd
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tj Holowaychuk
>> Vision Media
>> President & Creative Lead
>>
>
>


-- 
Tj Holowaychuk
Vision Media
President & Creative Lead

I'm good with requiring plugins/apps in a central place. That's how we
do it in Recess <http://recessframework.org/>.

-- 
Joshua Paine  
LetterBlock: Web applications built with joy  
http://letterblock.com/  
301-576-1920

well no lol the whole reason of this project is to make it for node.js and
not PHP :P
if we wanted PHP why not just use Drupal ?

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Joshua Paine <joshua@letterblock.com>wrote:

> I'm good with requiring plugins/apps in a central place. That's how we
> do it in Recess <http://recessframework.org/>.
>
> --
> Joshua Paine
> LetterBlock: Web applications built with joy
> http://letterblock.com/
> 301-576-1920
>
>


-- 
Tj Holowaychuk
Vision Media
President & Creative Lead

On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 15:26 -0800, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ]
wrote:
> well no lol the whole reason of this project is to make it for node.js
> and not PHP :P
> if we wanted PHP why not just use Drupal ?

Yeah...  I'm just saying, I've also worked on Recess (didn't design it),
and what we did there seemed to work pretty well.

I think I misread what you were saying, though. Are you saying you want
plugins, but they have to be included in ones app code and assets, or
you don't want plugins at all?


-- 
Joshua Paine  
LetterBlock: Web applications built with joy  
http://letterblock.com/  
301-576-1920

ya i do but they should be in the same directory structure so that
everything can be reached from the app's root directory, and not
scattered all over the system. Just not in PHP :P

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Joshua Paine <joshua@letterblock.com>wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 15:26 -0800, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ]
> wrote:
> > well no lol the whole reason of this project is to make it for node.js
> > and not PHP :P
> > if we wanted PHP why not just use Drupal ?
>
> Yeah...  I'm just saying, I've also worked on Recess (didn't design it),
> and what we did there seemed to work pretty well.
>
> I think I misread what you were saying, though. Are you saying you want
> plugins, but they have to be included in ones app code and assets, or
> you don't want plugins at all?
>
>
> --
> Joshua Paine
> LetterBlock: Web applications built with joy
> http://letterblock.com/
> 301-576-1920
>
>


-- 
Tj Holowaychuk
Vision Media
President & Creative Lead

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:35 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] <
tj@vision-media.ca> wrote:

> ya i do but they should be in the same directory structure so that
> everything can be reached from the app's root directory, and not
> scattered all over the system. Just not in PHP :P
>

So it is "app" not a "platform".  portable, and not embedded into any
particular machine

Todd

essentially yeah. It would be nice if you could use "plugins" located
anywhere just like Rubygems, pear, etc,
the main issue is like i mentioned, if a plugin has static files it needs to
serve we either have to copy them
over to our main app (not a huuuuge deal) or just have the plugins relative
to our app root

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Todd Geist <emptyofwhat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:35 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] <
> tj@vision-media.ca> wrote:
>
>> ya i do but they should be in the same directory structure so that
>> everything can be reached from the app's root directory, and not
>> scattered all over the system. Just not in PHP :P
>>
>
> So it is "app" not a "platform".  portable, and not embedded into any
> particular machine
>
> Todd
>



-- 
Tj Holowaychuk
Vision Media
President & Creative Lead

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:50 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] <
tj@vision-media.ca> wrote:

> essentially yeah. It would be nice if you could use "plugins" located
> anywhere just like Rubygems, pear, etc,
> the main issue is like i mentioned, if a plugin has static files it needs
> to serve we either have to copy them
> over to our main app (not a huuuuge deal) or just have the plugins relative
> to our app root
>

Can your package manager for node help?